38 Minutes Without a Pulse… How is Cory Alive & Well? | Cory | 012

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And this guy was in cardiac
arrest for 38 minutes for just

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us.
Now he has a pulse.

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There's probably not going to be
a good outcome.

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Welcome to When You Look, where
ordinary people share their

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extraordinary experiences and
you get to decide, was it

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coincidence or God?
Gentlemen, welcome to When You

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Look.
Super excited to have each of

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you guys here for this
incredibly unique story related

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to Corey.
Thanks again for being on

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everybody.
Pleasure.

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Thank.
You.

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Awesome.
Well, for those that are

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listening and certainly for
those that can see, we've got a

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whole host of folks on this
particular episode.

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And the reason for that is, is
that all of these folks were

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involved in the story that
centers upon Corey.

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So we're going to get to that
story here in just a second, but

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we'll start first with intros
and specifically with Corey.

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So, Corey, tell us a little bit
about yourself.

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All right.
Thanks, Mick.

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My name is Corey Eubanks.
I'm married to Paula, and we

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live in Georgia.
And I'm the person that this

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episode is about.
And I'm excited to be here.

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And I can't wait to hear the
stories that everybody has to

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tell.
And some of it may be new to me.

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Some of them I've probably
heard.

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But anyway, I'm really excited
to be here today.

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Yeah.
Awesome.

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Well, super grateful to have you
on the show here, John with an H

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Tell us a little bit about
yourself.

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I'm John.
John Corey, I was the first

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person on the scene.
You could say that.

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I mean, I was.
As the scene developed, I was

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there.
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Raced bicycles for over 30
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Not really active now but still
enjoyed riding.

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Eric, tell us a little bit about
yourself.

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Eric Garcia from Marietta, GA.
I've been cycling, gosh, for

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eight years.
This was what, the 4th, 4th year

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into it?
So how was one of the later

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arrivals then?
I actually called the 911 for

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Corey.
Awesome.

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Right on.
OK, John, without an H Tell us a

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little bit about yourself.
Yeah.

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So I'm John S I'm an avid
cyclist.

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I was lucky enough to be a part
of this event.

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I'm glad we were there.
Sorry we were there, but glad we

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were there to, you know, lend a
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And, yeah, it's really great to
see everybody again and, you

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know, reconnect the dots.
And because I tell you, 4 years

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is a long time, and it's hard to
remember all the details.

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All right.
Thanks, John.

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Glad to have you here.
Matt, Tell us a little bit about

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yourself.
Hey there.

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My name is Matt Lassiter.
I'm currently living in Nolan,

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Virginia, near DC.
I'm an avid cyclist.

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I've been cycling for about 5 or
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The Helen Grand Fondo event was
my first cycling event and since

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then I've been hooked, been
doing bike races and trying to

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stay in shape to compete with
the fast group rides in and

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Virginia.
And it's great to be back here

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and see Corey.
All right, Dan, tell us a little

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bit about yourself.
Hey, next.

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Thanks, Dan Funk.
I'm out in Colorado.

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I've been riding bikes for
decades and been riding bikes

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for decades with a lot of the
guys on this call today and will

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forever be connected to
everybody on this call today

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based on the story we're going
to tell.

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So happy to be here and excited
to be a part of it.

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Evan, tell us a little bit about
yourself.

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So hi, my name is Evan.
Like we said before, I'm excited

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to see some familiar faces and
and meet some people that like

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John said, four years is a long
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So memories A.
Little fuzzy, but yeah, the

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Grand Fondo and Helen was my
first and unlike Matt I was not

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bit by the bug.
That was a challenge for me and

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I have not ridden bicycles much
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But I had a great.
Time and yeah, excited for

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today.
Awesome.

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Well, thanks for being here,
man.

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Andy and Shad, tell us a little
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So I'm Andy.
I'm not an avid bicycle rider at

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all.
I was one of the first

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responders.
I was the paramedic that was

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working only how an ambulance on
the day of the incident.

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That's about it.
Yeah, my name's Shed.

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I was actually on the fire truck
that responded with Andy to to

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Corey's call.
But yeah, super excited to be

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here, kind of see see how this
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Gents, tell us a little bit
about yourself.

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Yeah, So my name is Gents.
At the time of the race, yeah, I

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think I was about, yeah, late
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And so I've been cycling at that
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I've been cycling I would say
for about two years, something

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that during COVID, my brother
dragged me into, you know, just

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to spend some time together.
Little did I know just how much

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pain and suffering I would go
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But relatively new cyclists.
I, I would say I'm, I'm not an

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avid cyclist.
I'll, I'll probably do it once a

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month or so.
But yeah, just really enjoy all

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the everything that comes around
the events.

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Thanks, everybody.
This is a unique one because not

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only do we have so many folks
that were involved in this

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incident, but me, the host here,
Mick, I was actually involved in

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this as well.
So I was on this trip, which was

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a cycling trip that included
Evan and Matt and Dan in from

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Colorado and then Sean and, and
one other guy up from Florida

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for all of us to meet to ride
the Helen Grand Fondo, which was

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slated for April 18th, 2021.
So we're going to jump into

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April 18th, 2021 for everybody.
As a reminder, we're

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approximately a year into COVID
and that meant for these larger

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outdoor events that they were
one just coming back because

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almost all of them have been
canceled for the remainder of

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2020.
And as they came back, they were

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coming back in a slightly
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So the example that was
applicable to all of us was that

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instead of a mass start that a
grand fondo like this would be

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meaning hundreds of riders all
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area and then the the starting
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off at a particular time of day.
In this case, all of the riders

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were being paced out by waves
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me and the group that are many
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which was the middle distance
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miles that did not start any
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group was slated for a 915 wave.
We ended up leaving around that

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time and Dan will end up sharing
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that timing really does play a
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So before we get into the actual
start of the event, Corey, let's

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turn it over to you.
Give us a little bit of back

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story of what kind of put you at
that Helen Grand Fondo and how

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this was a bit of a, of a, a
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one you were usually in.
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So I'll kind of give you some a
little bit of family background

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first.
So I have, we have three kids

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and now there are 3331 and 27.
So back in 2017, we were getting

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our youngest one off to college
and me and Paul and my wife, we

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were like, well, what do we do
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You know, are we going to stay
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the golf course?
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What are we going to do?
So we did some research, did

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some looking around and talking
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We decided we wanted to buy a
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So we bought a motorhome, a 40
foot motorhome, and we built a

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car to tow behind it.
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Peachtree City, which is South
of Atlanta, and we sold

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everything that we owned.
So we got rid of everything

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basically.
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after we got him off to college.
So we had been on the road

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travelling all over the country
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And we were coming back to the
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because our middle son who had
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the road, was having his first
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So we were back in the Atlanta
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our second grandchild.
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work done on the motorhome over
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So we dropped it off in Alabama,
drove back to Atlanta and stayed

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at my mother in
It's, it's very nice place.

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So they had a house there.
So we decided we would just go

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out there and stay for like a
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take it easy and, and just kind
of relax, even though I was

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still working at the time.
So we did that and on the first

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week on the, and of course I
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bike up there because I travel
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I, I ride all over the place.
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So the 1st, the Friday of that
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I saw this thing called the
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I wasn't sure exactly what that
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was like, that looks
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I'm right here next to it.
So why not just register for it?

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So you know, I registered for it
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think, I think that year was on
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So it's really kind of a last
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perspective.
So I thought, yeah, that'll be

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fine.
I can, you know, do that and

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round the line in pretty good
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I might do well, I don't know.
So anyway, I signed up for it

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and so Saturday, I always take
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like that.
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went and hiked up Mount Yona,
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as well.
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Yona, you know, it's kind of a
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And you know, I had no problem
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I had no issues.
I had no symptoms, nothing.

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Nothing was going on in my
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So, you know, we went home that
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I woke up the next morning
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I, from what I remember, I fixed
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I drove over to Helen by myself
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I remember checking in at the
registration tent and I, I

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remember when I checked in, they
were like, we don't have any

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more T-shirts.
And I was like, oh really?

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You can't give me a T-shirt?
I wanted to get a T-shirt, so I

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didn't get a T-shirt.
But anyway, I remember checking

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in and from that point on,
everything for the next week is

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was just a blur to me.
I had no idea that any of that

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had happened to me.
Unless of course, my wife told

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me that that happened and I
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happened that this incident
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So that's kind of a little bit
of background on how we ended up

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up there and how I registered
for the race and you know, how I

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showed up for the race and and
whatnot.

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So yeah, I'll certainly give
some more details later on, but

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that's just kind of my my back
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Point.
Yeah, that's great.

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And that's super helpful.
So John, with an H, why don't

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you tell us what you were up to
that morning kind of leading up

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to the start of the Grand Fondo?
And for all of the folks that

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are listening to this, a Grand
Fondo is a really interesting

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type of ride.
And it's originally birthed in

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Europe and it's a scenario where
it is a race, which is why Corey

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is referencing a race, but it is
also a ride.

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And so if there's a race within
a ride essentially, so a a

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complete race is not what it is,
but there are timed segments

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inside of it and the cumulative
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segments is the actual race.
And so that's what Corey is

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describing when he's talking
about a race.

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And then there were folks like
me who were not planning to

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race, race and be competitive in
that race, but instead

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ultimately being there to have
the enjoyment of the overall

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ride with some of those time
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But Jonathan, each talk us
through what was going on for

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you that morning and and what
leads into you being there

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riding.
OK, well first of all, I wasn't

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supposed to be there.
I had originally thought I would

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do a motorcycle track day at
Rode Atlanta.

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I was late in registering.
All of the run groups were full.

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However, my wife Christy was
planning to do this grand fondo

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to ride with a good friend of
ours, Erica, for her first ride

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back after having a child.
And so, you know, maybe the

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night before, the day before, I
said, OK, well, I guess I'll go

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if I can't go do what I wanted
to do at Rd.

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Atlanta, I'll go.
And registration was closed.

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And so I said, you know what?
I'll just I'll bandit the ride.

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I don't need to do.
I don't need the support.

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I'll just, I'll just ride up the
road and then when the group

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comes by, I'll just get in with
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So, yeah.
So that, that morning, you know,

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we, we drive from Brevard,
that's where we live down to

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Helen.
Get out, you know, do the normal

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thing before a bike event, you
know, get the, make sure the

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bikes are good.
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all right, I'm going to ride up
the road, you know, because

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they're, I know they're going
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What I didn't realize was that I
had ridden, I was slightly

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familiar with the area, having
ridden around there a couple

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times, but I didn't realize that
that's where the time site that

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I was going up to the time
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So I thought I'd ride, you know,
a mile, mile and a half up the

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road, kind of do a little
housekeeping before, you know,

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however long of a ride that was
going to be.

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And then I knew that the next
group would be this group.

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And so I would just sort of
absorb into that as they went

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by.
So, Eric, let's go to you.

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Tell us what was going on with
you that morning.

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So a group of us went up, it was
four of us all together. 2 of my

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friends were riding the 100 mile
version and gents, he and I were

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doing this, the shorter version,
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And I remember it was freezing.
I'm like, I don't even know if I

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want to do this.
Maybe I just want to stay in the

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car, have some hot chocolate.
I'm like, let's all right, let's

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go.
So remember this freezing,

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shivering.
And I said, we, we got to do it.

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Let's do it.
Put on our arm warmers.

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I don't know, layers of of
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We got pumped up and, and we
just started pedaling and I

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remember it was, it was just a
beautiful, clear, crisp morning.

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And it's just, we were really
pumped up to start doing it.

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Once we, once they, we, we
launched off everywhere, the

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endorphins started going.
We were really, really excited,

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you know, razzing on each other
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And, and that was really the
start of the morning.

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But it, it was close to saying,
let's just stay in the car and

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we'll go when it warms up.
But but we did muscle through.

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I'm glad we did so that.
Morning.

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I remember we got up really
extremely early because we live

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in the Marietta area, so it's
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So for us to get to Helen, it's
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an hour and a half drive.
So Eric and I were just sitting

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in the car trying to stay warm
and just, you know, goofing

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around and trying to get warmed
up and just get ready for the

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race.
I hadn't trained much for this

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race, so I just knew I had to
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it through it.
So yeah, it was pretty

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relatively relaxing morning.
I'd just come back from a 10 day

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vacation, so I was in a good
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All right, well, Dan, give us a
sense.

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Give the listeners a sense,
because in this case I really

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was there.
But describe for kind of the

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whole crew of us what was going
on that morning and what led us

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to be where we were when we
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Yeah.
It's funny, Eric, that you say

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it was a cold day coming from
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It was definitely bright and
crisp.

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And I felt like it was
unseasonably warm compared to

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what I was used to leading into
leading into that ride.

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So.
But yeah, we we were there for a

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cycling trip mixed.
Like you said, there's a group

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of us that have done this for a
long time.

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We had some new folks that had
joined the ride with Matt and

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Evan and Chad who's not on the
call today, but just a a great

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opportunity for a great group of
guys to come together and have

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some memory making experiences.
So we had written three days

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prior, two days prior to the
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I think we all flew in or drove
in, you know, the previous week,

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Thursday ish, we rode on Friday,
we rode on Saturday.

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And the Helen Grand Fondo was
kind of like the the queen

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stage, so to speak, for our
event.

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So instead of driving down, we
stayed in Helen.

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We we hopped on our bikes and we
had a very fast decent down the

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hill into town.
And, you know, just, I think

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like, like John with an H said,
like, you know, you have this

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energy around the, the the
beginning of of the race.

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There's lots of people there.
There's tons going on.

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You know, it's the first time
we've raced during COVID.

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So that was always like a little
what's what's it going to be

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like?
But yeah, we all kind of threw a

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leg over the bike and jumped on
when our wave and and started

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heading up the road.
And I just remember getting into

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that first time section, you
know, and thinking like, all

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right, here we go, like game on.
It's time to time to start to

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ride and and then everything
kind of changed pretty

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drastically at that point.
Yeah, thanks.

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I'm just going to add to that.
So I recall specifically that we

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were the 9:15 wave.
So as I was talking about this

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earlier, the media, which was
that middle distance couldn't

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start any earlier than 9:00 AM.
So our entire group had

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registered for a 915 wave.
And as Dan was just talking

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about, we were, we were, we were
way up above the, the town of

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Helen.
And I mean, it was like a rocket

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ship straight down the road,
like 20% grades down.

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So it took us a split second to
get down to the start line.

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And realistically it took us
maybe 5 minutes.

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But we left the house at 9 and
got down to the start area where

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we would need to pick up timing
chips.

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And of course, everybody other
than John with an H who was

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banditing the ride would have
been doing the same type of

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thing, right, getting their
their timing ship.

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Because again, there's some time
sections in this.

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So we're anticipating due to due
to COVID and all of the wave

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starts, that there will be a lot
of people, but that there will

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be things like social distancing
and that there will be a lot of

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time required in order to get
those timing ships.

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So we left at 9:00.
We're down there at nine O 5 for

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a 915 wave start and it took us
all of about 30 seconds to get

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our timing chip because there
was nobody there.

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All the other people had left in
the 9:00 wave or the wave before

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us or whatever was.
But we're thinking this is going

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to take a while and it doesn't
take long at all.

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Literally, we are then sitting
in the staging area, this whole

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group of us and a handful of
other people that we didn't know

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or recognize, and we're looking
at each other.

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Conan, are we going to, are we
going to sit here and to Eric's

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point, kind of freeze for
another 7 or 8 minutes until

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it's 9:15?
Or should we just go because

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there wasn't any type of
marshalling that was preventing

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us from going.
So we all just decided let's

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just roll.
We got everything we need.

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And again, I think that's really
important, that timing.

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So we're supposed to go off at
9:15 and realistically we're

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probably rolling around nine O
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So we then start rolling and at
this point, kind of everybody is

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basically rolling.
I think Eric, you're on the road

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at this point, John with an H.
We know that you're on the road.

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And so other than Andy and Shad,
we're all kind of on the road up

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to and including Corey.
So Annie and Chad, let's just go

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to you guys real quick.
What were you guys up to that

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morning in the fire station?
So we usually start our day in

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Cleveland at our main
headquarters station.

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We check off our trucks and
stuff like that and then we go

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to our outlying stations.
Usually they like this to be in

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our zone.
So in the Helen zone, we get

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there around 9 O clock, we get
all of our food that we're going

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to eat for the shift and then we
just kind of start hanging out.

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And Child was working with the
fire department that day and we

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were talking about the race and
just kind of doing our normal

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routine for a Sunday morning.
Yeah, one thing I remember

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specifically was when we're kind
of coming into work up there is

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as we're going into Helen over
there on the backstreet where

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the race started, we see all the
tents and all like the start and

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the finish line, all that.
And our first thought is, oh

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crap, what's going to happen
today?

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You know, we, we anticipate are
we were told ahead of time when

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the races or certain things are
going on.

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And so we knew it was happening.
But when we go, we see all the

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people in all the cars.
Our first thought is what's

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going to happen, you know?
Yeah, going to be a busy day at

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work essentially, right?
Never.

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Know.
Yeah, right.

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Exactly.
Hopefully not, but you never

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know.
OK.

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So I think we're at the point in
the story where now everybody is

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essentially on the road except
for Andy and Shad.

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But they're there, they're at
the station.

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And I want to kind of describe a
little bit about what happened

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with a particular vehicle that
was on the road when our group

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was on the road.
So who wants to take that from

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our crew?
Yeah.

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So I recall as, as Mick alluded
to, us being kind of by

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ourselves in a smaller ride
group and just starting to

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begin.
And I remember coming up on what

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I believe was the time section
because it was the first time we

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felt like we saw like an
official.

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And I don't remember if you saw
the motorcycle or what have you,

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but it seemed legit.
And as we were approaching that

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section, I recall vividly A
jacked up red pickup truck and a

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Chevy pickup truck, kind of.
Fly by our group and we were,

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you know, we're a small group,
but it was a number that takes

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up the lane as as people who
ride bikes know that it's it's

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you know, you want to appear and
be visible on the road.

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And I remember being past what
felt like aggressively and, and

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my initial reaction was to get
pissed.

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I was frustrated already, you
know?

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I was cold and didn't want to
really be there that day, but I

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was having fun.
And that was an.

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Aggressive pass and turn and so
I remember rounding that turn to

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then what appears like a truck
parked in the middle of the road

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diagonally and and a body laying
on the ground with a group

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already around it.
So it was an interesting thought

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of well, what just happened and
and I remember being like, I

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can't believe, you know, someone
just hit an A rider and then we

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find out that that that's not
the case.

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So that was an interesting start
to the to the race.

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Yeah, I really appreciate how
you describe that.

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It, it definitely seemed like it
was a very, very aggressive

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passing of us.
And if I recall, it seemed as if

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it was super unsafe because it
was also around a corner, a

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blind corner essentially.
So this this particular driver

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was giving us every bit of the
signs of he or she didn't want

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us on the road and and yet they
play a really interesting role

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here in just a second.
So John H bring us up to speed,

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pardon the pun, there on how
things were going for you on the

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road at this point.
So I think that the.

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Group that my friends were in, I
think they left it nine O 5.

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So I rolled up.
I rolled off just before 9, you

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know, nice easy warm up and get
situated and everything.

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And, and I, I position myself
where I can see the group coming

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from a distance and I see a
group coming from the distance.

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They're going slowly at that
point.

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And I just roll out into the
into the lane or in near the

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white line, figuring I'll just
let them roll by.

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And then, but as they get
closer, that's this is where the

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time segment starts, which I
didn't realize, but once I saw

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it, I was like, oh, that's
what's going on.

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And so the bunch turns into a
pointy line.

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00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,400
And, you know, being somebody
that's not officially on the

446
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,240
ride, I don't want to interrupt
anybody who's, you know, has

447
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,400
certain goals for that ride.
So I let the so the group comes

448
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,680
up to me.
I'm probably rolling it like 12

449
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,440
miles an hour.
I'm not sure how fast they're

450
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,160
going, but, and you know, I let
probably 8 riders go by and I

451
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,840
noticed that's when it kind of
fans out a little bit.

452
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,160
So, and there's a little gap.
So I behind the 8th rider.

453
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,640
So I just slide in right behind
that 8th rider, which as I've

454
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:24,400
learned is Corey.
And so it's, it's not very long.

455
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,040
I, I, it's probably less than a
minute.

456
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:35,080
And I, I'm, I'm watching the
wheel in front of me and I see

457
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,160
that this person sort of backing
off and easing up and I'm like,

458
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,960
oh boy, you know, this is a guy
that saw me come in and he

459
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,480
doesn't want people doing this.
And I'm, I've, I've been in,

460
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,280
I've been here before, you know,
I'm kind of getting ready to

461
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,040
just Sprint around him and, and
play that game.

462
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,960
But, but as I'm sitting there
and he's going more slowly and

463
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,920
more slowly and normally
somebody that is going to do

464
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,040
what I'm anticipating to them to
do, their body language will be

465
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,840
a little bit more animated.
Corey's was not.

466
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,000
And it was a gradual slowing
down, so much so that the group

467
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,880
kind of the rest of the bunch
goes by and, and I, I, I can

468
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,040
tell something's wrong.
So this is not, this is not some

469
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,000
guy that just wants to make sure
I'm not screwing up with his

470
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,840
time segment and something's
wrong.

471
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,720
And so I roll up next to him and
I look and he's just looking

472
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,840
straight ahead and almost, you
know, and barely kind of

473
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,000
pedaling and, and stiff, you
know, kind of like held in a

474
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,120
position.
And I, I'm talking to, to him

475
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,280
and I'm saying, asking him if
he's all right.

476
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,120
And I said, let's, let's pull
over.

477
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:53,400
Something's, something's wrong.
Let's, let's pull over and

478
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,640
recover.
And you know, I don't know what

479
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,520
has, I don't know what's
happening with this person.

480
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,080
You know, did he take like some
sort of bad supplements or like

481
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,120
drink too much coffee or
something?

482
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,840
I, I have no idea, You know,
like, because the effort has

483
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,640
started, the heart rate goes up.
And, and so we, we kind of pull

484
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:20,000
over and we sit down on the side
of the road kind of just off of

485
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,880
the white line, but still right
at the edge of the of the

486
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,720
pavement and with our feet down
kind of down the hill with a

487
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,640
ditch.
And I'm, I'm talking to Corey

488
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,120
trying to, you know, kind of
figure out what has led him to

489
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,720
this point, you know how he's
feeling.

490
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,480
And actually it's interesting.
Corey doesn't remember any of

491
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,840
this, but but he was responding
to me and he was responsive and

492
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,240
he was talking to me and he, he
said he felt light headed.

493
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,560
And I said, well, we're, I'm,
we're going to sit here until

494
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,000
you feel better.
And I'm not going to leave.

495
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,520
We're going to even if we have
to just ride back, we're going

496
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560
to, you know, I'm going to stay
here with you.

497
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,640
So don't worry about that.
And, you know, I'm sure I was

498
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:18,080
yammering about something else.
And then he just leans back,

499
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,200
head on the, you know, head on
the pavement.

500
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Fortunately, he's wearing his
helmet.

501
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,320
And I I'll admit, I looked and I
was like, what is going on?

502
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,280
This is not this is not it.
It turned the situation turned

503
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,160
from, oh, this is somebody
that's not feeling well.

504
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,680
And, you know, and this is he's
going to feel better, like we're

505
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,040
going to his heart rate's going
to come down.

506
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,280
Whatever is going on, his heart
rate's going to come down And

507
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,120
and we'll ride.
I know I'm I, you know, I miss

508
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400
riding with my friends, but
we'll see what happens.

509
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:02,120
And to it goes from something
that's minor to being like, Oh

510
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040
my gosh, this guy has a real
problem.

511
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,080
And so I guess we can think
about this.

512
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,480
If the group, if the group I
integrated in left, two or three

513
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,800
minutes before your group, your
group gets passed by an

514
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,360
aggressive red truck.
We've been sitting on the side

515
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,240
of the road.
Corey passes out or loses

516
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,680
consciousness.
I look, I see that truck coming.

517
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,520
I get up, go out in the middle
of the road, hail him down.

518
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,560
You know, I'm literally in the
middle of the road because he

519
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,880
wanted to go around me, but he
stopped.

520
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,760
I wasn't going to let him not
stop.

521
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,800
And you know, I, I'll admit, I
didn't know what to say.

522
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,680
I was like, we're part of an
event.

523
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,920
There's probably an ambulance in
town.

524
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,320
I don't think there's any cell
coverage here.

525
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,240
Can you contact somebody at that
event?

526
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,160
Can you do it?
Like, do you have a phone?

527
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Can you do this?
And I think while I'm saying

528
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,960
that, which is kind of
interesting, so Evans probably

529
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,920
like, Oh my God, there's a guy
arguing with the guy in the

530
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,640
truck and the guy in the ground.
He's probably giving him the

531
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,040
right.
But I see this group coming and,

532
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,600
you know, unfortunately, I mean,
with, you know, full respect to

533
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,280
the driver who was aggressive to
the bunch behind, he I think

534
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,240
tried to help.
I don't know what he ultimately

535
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,560
did, but he tried, which is, you
know, refreshing.

536
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,880
But seeing that group was like,
OK, here's some other people

537
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,640
that can help.
And the relief when they came up

538
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,000
and some of them said they had
some medical training was like,

539
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,320
Oh my gosh, incredible.
All the while, Corey is laying

540
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,080
there.
I mean, it was probably a

541
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,480
minute, you know, after he
passed out.

542
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:10,240
I get up, flag the guy down.
I see the group coming and you

543
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,680
know, I'll, I'll admit that that
part of it is a little fuzzy to

544
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,160
me, like what happened.
I forget what I said.

545
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,440
I, you know, I guess you're, you
know, you were all in, we're all

546
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920
in bike costumes.
So when I see you on the call

547
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,920
now, I don't exactly recognize
you, but about what happened in

548
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,120
that point because I, I did not
know what to do.

549
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,040
I've taken CPR and that kind of
emergencies, but in that moment

550
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,480
I didn't know what to do all.
I'll ever remember is just

551
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,400
seeing John and and Corey and
and pretty much exactly how John

552
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,880
just described it.
Just Corey being, I don't know

553
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,080
if I'm using the word sketchy is
the right term to use it, but

554
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,640
just very unusually wobbly all
over the place.

555
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,000
I immediately knew something is
not right.

556
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,560
And being the type of person
that I am, I'm like, Eric, we

557
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,720
are, we're let's hang out, let's
hang out behind these guys for a

558
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,160
little bit.
Let's just see what's going on.

559
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,760
That's just really, that's kind
of what I remember.

560
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,200
And then obviously things went
South or whatever you want to

561
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,080
call it right after that.
But just as they pulled over and

562
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,360
they sat down exactly like they
described it on the side of the

563
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560
road.
I remember Corey just kind of

564
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,240
like his, his, his head kind of
being hunched down and him

565
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,440
holding the bike and kind of
almost looking frustrated at the

566
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,320
bike, drops the bike and then
just bam, falls backwards on his

567
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,440
head.
And as we, as we pull up, we

568
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,920
stop.
That happens.

569
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440
And then just immediately know
something's not right.

570
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,040
And then what did you do?
So we get off the bike and we I

571
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,760
immediately go and get like
above him And then he's still

572
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,520
kind of breathing a little bit.
It's slowing down.

573
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,240
And then just having known and
seen enough stuff, I just knew

574
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,920
it wasn't a good sign.
And I do remember him almost

575
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,199
snoring a little bit before it
all stopped.

576
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,679
And the color, like the color in
his face a little bit that was

577
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:15,239
red from, you know, climbing his
blood flow Just immediately that

578
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,000
color disappeared almost
instantly.

579
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,920
But he was pale and and I knew I
was like, we've got to get to

580
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,920
moving on this guy.
And I think that's when I kind

581
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,960
of snapped at Eric Colt 911 now.
And I know John was in that in

582
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,760
the in the immediate vicinity
right there.

583
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,600
And him.
I think we found out that he

584
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,000
didn't know him and and I
remember getting down and trying

585
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,760
to take his helmet off and he he
had one of those helmets, I

586
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,560
guess had never had that kind of
just it comes off.

587
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,560
Maybe it's a little bit of a
weird slide and I didn't know

588
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,239
how to do it.
So I remember John helping me

589
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,000
take that off.
And honestly, we just started

590
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,840
doing chest compressions
immediately.

591
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,120
And one of the things that I'd
remember is why we kept going

592
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,040
and I kept fighting for him and
even trying to hunt him down is

593
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,240
the reaction his body gave to me
the moment we started doing

594
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,720
chest compressions, almost as if
his color was slightly coming

595
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,480
back.
He was, it was a good sign.

596
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,800
It gave me the hope of, hey, we
need to keep going.

597
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,280
So Eric, I, I think we should
probably shift to.

598
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,760
You so I believe I, I, I was
there right before you all had

599
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,080
been there.
So gents and I pulled, pulled up

600
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,160
front, right, because we, we saw
Corey at the time sitting

601
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
upwards and he had it.
We said that something's not

602
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,320
right.
Let's let's pull over, say hey.

603
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,720
And I believe the two of them
were talking and we, we were I

604
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,840
was by my bike and I remember
just sitting and seeing him sit

605
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,280
there said I think he looks
alright.

606
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,040
He looks like he's responsive.
Then suddenly when I saw him

607
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,880
like lurch back like that,
suddenly slammed his head into

608
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,000
the ground.
Oh, oh, I said let's get over

609
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,160
that.
We, we got to do something right

610
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,280
away.
And I believe that's when the

611
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,080
car came out and the whole 9
yards.

612
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,720
And then I remember against went
over there right away.

613
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,760
There was a.
Couple people there at the time,

614
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,640
right?
I remember he had his, pulled

615
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,680
his sunglasses off right away
and put the arm down his, Cory's

616
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,520
mouth to, not to swallow his
tongue as they were trying to

617
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,800
keep him because he was
compulsing a little bit.

618
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,160
And then I, I just, and all
that, I think you guys all

619
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080
started to roll up because I
remember said they said, oh,

620
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,040
he's, he's unresponsive,
somewhat a doctor, somewhat a

621
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,880
doctor.
And all of this was going on at

622
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,160
the same time.
And then I remember looking on

623
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,200
my phone.
I said we got to call 911.

624
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,400
There was no service.
So I remember just in the middle

625
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,800
of the road stopping cars
because there was cars was

626
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,800
pretty busy, right?
All these cars stopped.

627
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,840
Then finally I got to a spot and
said T-Mobile Connect and I got

628
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,600
through 911 and I was like on
the other side up up in the hill

629
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,720
a little bit.
Anyway, I got 911.

630
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:54,920
I don't know who it was and
they're like, where are you?

631
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,240
And I said Helen Germantown.
I don't know where to tell you.

632
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,280
We're in a race probably a mile,
2 miles up the road.

633
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,400
A person needs help to send
some.

634
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,640
I was like yelling at them
because they they were trying to

635
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,280
explain where you were.
I said I don't know where I am.

636
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Find me.
We're in Helen.

637
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,240
We're on a grand fond of us.
Send someone right away.

638
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,600
I was, I probably said a couple
of colorful words.

639
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,040
I said, you got to get someone
here.

640
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680
And I don't know who it was, but
that's when I, I was on the

641
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,320
phone with them for a while
because I guess they were

642
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,480
tracking my location.
And then I could hear sirens in

643
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,240
the distance, which I believe
was the fire truck or the

644
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,360
ambulance at the time.
And, and then we all came to

645
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,800
quarry.
And then at that point everyone

646
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,920
was doing chest compressions,
holding his head, holding his

647
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
airway clear.
Remember doing that at one time,

648
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,920
holding the airway open and then
everyone's doing rotations of,

649
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,840
of of that.
And it just after that, it was

650
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,200
all blur.
It seemed like everyone was just

651
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,520
switching, switching positions,
doing the compressions, keeping

652
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,160
them going.
And we were checking for a pulse

653
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160
and we're like someone said,
there's no pulse, there's no

654
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,160
pulse.
Got to keep doing it.

655
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,920
And everyone just kept on
pushing, pushing, pushing.

656
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,960
And there was really, it was
scary at that point he was gone.

657
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,520
But I said, and someone said, I
believe it was someone who would

658
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,120
with a medical background, you
got to keep his blood flowing,

659
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,800
got to keep his blood flowing.
And we all just kept doing it.

660
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,520
And then the EM TS showed up and
I remember put him on the

661
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,280
stretcher with the, the, the
with the machine.

662
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,120
And what stands out to me
vividly was he's got no pulse.

663
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,640
And at that point I'm just like
freaked out.

664
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,720
I felt like blood rush on my
head.

665
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,040
We just saw someone die.
But.

666
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,720
It was just I, everyone, it was
just a blur and we were all

667
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:43,360
would just come in.
I know at that point you guys

668
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,840
were all there and it was, it
was pretty wild at that point,

669
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,800
but something else was taken
over because we were all just

670
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,280
doing it.
Let's rewind a tiny bit.

671
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,480
It sounds like you had run up a
hill in order to get cell

672
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,920
service.
Yes, because one, once I saw

673
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,720
him, went back, went back, we
ran up to went up to him check

674
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,400
them out and I picked up, I
looked at my phone and said

675
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,120
we've got to get 911 right away.
And there was no cell phone

676
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,240
service because I remember it
was off of a graded Rd. where he

677
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:18,000
was, everyone was.
And then across the road, it was

678
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,760
a slightly elevated.
I remember running across the

679
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,960
road as I was stopping traffic
and there was a little

680
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,240
embankment.
I kind of walked up in a little

681
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:30,000
bit and cycling shoes trying to.
I remember sliding and suddenly

682
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,520
I had service.
Like the bars just shot up and I

683
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,240
just called 911 and it connected
and I just stood still because I

684
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:42,360
couldn't want to move.
Yeah, it was just, but there was

685
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,760
no service anywhere.
But there was this little notch.

686
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,920
Somehow we had service, which
was wild.

687
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:56,240
Yeah, Dan, let's cut to you here
because I am recalling you and I

688
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,160
essentially like sort of almost
shouting at each other, speaking

689
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,200
very loudly with each other
about.

690
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,560
You were like, I'll try and make
a a 911 call.

691
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,920
And I think I said something
like I can't get any service or

692
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,680
I don't have any service, so I
said I was going to go back.

693
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,800
Do you recall any of the
specifics there for for what was

694
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,560
going on for you?
Yeah, yeah.

695
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960
I mean it just like Evan had
said, like we just come around a

696
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,200
corner.
You see this scene unfolding in

697
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,840
front of us and it's just it's
not chaotic yet, but it just has

698
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,560
this feeling of chaos, right?
There's like a lot going on and

699
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,160
the truck is there.
And once we realized like, all

700
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,520
right, the truck, the guy didn't
hit Corey, thank God.

701
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,600
But something else is seriously
wrong saying that.

702
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,640
Everybody said like looking at
her phones, no service at all.

703
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:52,680
And I can't remember if I talked
to him or if somebody else

704
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,720
talked to the driver in the
truck, but I remember him being

705
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,000
one person amongst many who
actually had service.

706
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,960
And it's like he's like a local
guy with probably a local cell

707
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,760
phone plan.
And miraculously he's the guy,

708
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,320
right?
The guy that everyone is so

709
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,440
angry with, right?
Not 5 minutes prior.

710
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,720
He is the guy that has the bars
to connect.

711
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,920
And Eric, I didn't know that you
had called too, but I got I just

712
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,960
remember thinking like, thank
God this guy is here.

713
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,480
And despite what we feel right
now or have felt more recently

714
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,320
about him, that he is here to
help us in this situation.

715
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,000
If he played a very pivotal
role, I'm sure there was

716
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,960
multiple people who made that
call or attempted to make that

717
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,800
call and get help on the way.
But yeah, it was it was just it

718
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,280
was like an immediate change and
feeling.

719
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,440
I remember feeling towards this
man that had kind of buzzed us

720
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,120
in his truck.
And then from there, it's like

721
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,160
the scene unfolded.
You know, John and Matt, you

722
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,440
know, we're going to hear from,
you know, just jumped into

723
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,600
action.
And I just remember staying

724
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,800
clear of that entire scene,
right, and letting those guys do

725
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,240
what they needed to do.
And, you know, we're in the

726
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,560
middle of this time section.
So everybody that's at this race

727
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,920
is like ready to go.
I mean, they're like, they have

728
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,720
no idea to come on this corner.
They see this scene and I would

729
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,560
say, you know, probably more
than 50% of people either stop

730
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,800
or at least made intent to ask,
like, hey, is everything OK?

731
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,640
Do you guys need help?
And it was like, I remember

732
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,040
thinking, like, the last thing
we need is more people here.

733
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,960
Like, we have enough people to
do what we needed to do.

734
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,920
And I just remember telling
people like this, this guy's not

735
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,600
responsive.
Please pray for him as you head

736
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,120
up the road.
And, and that was it.

737
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,840
And it's like that felt like so
inconsequential, frankly, at the

738
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,880
time because I'm seeing guys do
chest compressions and giving

739
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,960
Corey CPR, administering just
non-stop, right, with no, no

740
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,080
reprieve.
I'm just standing there thinking

741
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,120
like, I'm just going to tell
people, hey, I think we have

742
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,760
this under control.
But Priest, please pray for this

743
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,080
man who is clearly in a in a
place that we don't want him to

744
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,160
be.
Yeah.

745
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,080
Well, now John without an H and
Matt, we're going to go to you

746
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,320
in a quick second here.
And Evan, we're certainly going

747
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,360
to hear from you also.
But I want to give you guys a

748
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,680
quick sense for for where I had
gone just as part of this whole

749
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,320
thing, because it also relates
to what Dan was just talking

750
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,200
about.
And because I couldn't get a

751
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:37,240
cell call out to 911, I thought
what we had just passed a course

752
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,760
Marshall right at the beginning
of the time section.

753
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,840
That was that was minutes
before.

754
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,280
I'm like, I'll race back there
as fast as I can because in my

755
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,560
prior experience from other
races and rides and fondos like

756
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,280
this, most of those course
marshals would have a radio of

757
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920
some sort.
So my hope was I could get back

758
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,360
to that person quickly because
nobody in aircrew.

759
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,240
So while, Eric, your call may
have very well been actually

760
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:09,720
happening, since we didn't know
each other, right, we weren't

761
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,040
communicating.
So I have no idea.

762
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,760
And I don't have coverage.
And I'm thinking to myself,

763
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,520
well, I've got Verizon.
Verizon tends to work the best.

764
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,960
If Verizon isn't working, it's
not working.

765
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Nobody's got anything.
I'll go back to the course

766
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,320
Marshall.
Or at least that was all that

767
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,640
was the intention.
So I raised back there as

768
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,800
quickly as I could.
And I get there and I say to the

769
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,200
course Marshall, I'm like,
somebody just got hit by a guy

770
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,760
in a giant red pickup truck.
OK.

771
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Because that's all the
information that I had at that

772
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,000
point, which is we sort of all
begin to have have begun to

773
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,320
explain is actually not correct.
But I was saying to the course

774
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,240
Marshall, you got to send some
help.

775
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:52,520
Do you have any radio?
And he goes, no, I don't have a

776
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,640
radio.
And I remember thinking to

777
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,720
myself, how do you not have a
radio at an event like this?

778
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,360
And he's like, but I got a
motorbike, so I'm like, get on

779
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,240
it.
So he literally takes his like 4

780
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:05,760
stroke.
I mean, it was literally like a

781
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,560
motocross kind of motorbike.
It wasn't even like an enduro

782
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,920
type of thing from what I
remember.

783
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,560
And he's like, all right, I'll
go back.

784
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,360
And I was like, yeah, go back.
So we're going to go to Evan to,

785
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,360
to kind of talk about his
experience here in just a

786
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,800
second, just sort of broadly.
And then I really want to get

787
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,240
into the meat of things with,
with John and Matt.

788
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,800
But that guy leaves.
And so I turn around and before

789
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,640
I get all the way back, I am
passed by fire truck and

790
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,720
ambulance.
So Evan, tell us what was going

791
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:40,880
on for you at this point before
we hear from John and Matt.

792
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,280
Yeah, my experience was similar
to to Dan's.

793
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:54,000
I'd say I wasn't very hands on.
I I just remember rolling to the

794
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,320
scene and adrenaline's, you
know, you get the adrenaline

795
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,480
dump, your heart rate goes and
you.

796
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,720
Kind of just like locked in.
And I remember being really,

797
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:07,080
really proud of my buddy Matt
for just jumping straight in

798
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,080
like no hesitation, immediately
stabilizing the neck.

799
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,040
I I have a.
Picture of it because I remember

800
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,480
being like, all right, well, I'm
going to snap a picture of this

801
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,080
truck, which I did.
And then in the background you

802
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,160
see sort of what's unfolding
and, and, and Matt's there

803
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,880
stabilizing the neck right there
on the white line on the edge

804
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,480
and seeing that, you know.
Again, like dad said, a lot of

805
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,400
lot of bodies don't need more
people in there.

806
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,560
It seemed like they had a good
rotation going.

807
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:44,800
I excused myself.
Corey was super blue and I've

808
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,000
been around death before, but
I've never seen what I perceived

809
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,680
as a as a.
A dead body.

810
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:55,440
I mean, that was overwhelming.
So after that adrenaline dump

811
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,960
kind of wore off, I was super
emotional and now I'm not

812
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:01,760
normally.
That way I'm a big guy.

813
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,240
And I carry.
Myself that, you know, largely I

814
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:08,600
guess, but I went to the, you
know, embankment.

815
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,880
And just sat.
There and felt very overwhelmed

816
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:20,000
and and and I'm not a praying
man usually, but I felt

817
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:26,080
compelled to like ask for
something whatever's out there

818
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,360
like I'm.
We need help.

819
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,080
Here, and I remember that in
crying and saying words and

820
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,280
another patron coming over and
sitting with me and we just.

821
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,440
Talked and talked.
Through it.

822
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,880
And said, you know.
It's going to be all right.

823
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,000
We just prayed together.
And I found, you know, comfort

824
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,840
in that It was it was a cool.
Experience for me, being out of

825
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,080
my comfort zone in that space,
knowing that's going on over

826
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,800
there and I can't help.
So I'm going to just.

827
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,120
Stay out of the way, but it's
interesting to hear other

828
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,520
perspectives on the on the on
the event.

829
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,040
Yeah, well, thanks for filling
us in.

830
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:12,200
OK so Matt and John without an H
talk us through how things went

831
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,800
down.
Matt.

832
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Well, why don't you go OK.
So like everyone else, Evan was

833
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,920
saying, and we came around the
corner and we first saw the

834
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,120
truck and Corey on the ground.
So I'd, I'd had medical

835
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,480
experience, I was an ENT and I
work in the operating room.

836
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:40,000
So, you know, doing CPR and
being around patients that are

837
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:47,080
sick, unhealthy, dying is, you
know, sort of more normal for me

838
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,720
than everyone else,
unfortunately.

839
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:56,280
And so rolling onto the scene,
we see Corey on the ground, a

840
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,160
truck and we don't know what
happened.

841
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,440
And my first thought is, OK, he
could have a neck injury.

842
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,120
And because we don't know if he
fell off his bike got hit.

843
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,760
And so when I run over there and
hold the C spine, because that's

844
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,640
that's what I know what to do.
And we checked, I'm checking the

845
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,000
carotid pulse and I instruct
someone else who I don't

846
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,360
remember who it was to check his
groin to see if he had a femoral

847
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,600
pulse, which he had no pulse.
And I think it was John who was

848
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,920
right there.
I told John like we have to CPR

849
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,280
and John jumped in immediately
and just started in CPR.

850
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,480
And from then it was basically
tunnel vision.

851
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,560
I don't really remember who was
there or what, you know, what

852
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,920
was going on, but it was I was
basically just doing what, you

853
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,240
know, what I had learned how to
do.

854
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,680
And I was holding his neck and
trying to open his airway as

855
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,440
much as I could and directing,
it sounds like, John, to start

856
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,240
with compression.
So, John, tell us what that was

857
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,760
like.
Yeah.

858
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,800
Well, I mean, honestly, I don't
know if Matt wasn't there, if

859
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,840
we'd be here collectively.
I mean, we needed somebody to

860
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,000
direct traffic.
And, you know, I mean, I think

861
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,120
most of us are action oriented.
But in that moment, you're just

862
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,600
so like stunned in the moment
that you're not really sure what

863
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,120
to do.
So you're looking for that, you

864
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,520
know, that commanding voice.
And Matt was like, this is what

865
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,200
we need to do and blah, blah,
blah.

866
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,400
And like, OK, so I want to
backtrack.

867
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,640
I don't want to go too far down
this, but two things about the

868
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,560
red truck.
One, I think we would all agree

869
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,840
we left to the wrong conclusion
about red truck guy cuz we all

870
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,920
had a perception of that.
Then I do remember seeing the

871
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,400
interaction between John and the
truck guy and I was like, oh

872
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,960
it's on for sure.
Not knowing that, you know,

873
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Corey was in the state that he
was in.

874
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,600
But I, I remember I he had ACB
radio and I thought that was how

875
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,480
the connection got made.
I was like, he could be the only

876
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,880
person left in America with the
CB.

877
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,600
And I think that's how like how
he made the connection and, and

878
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,520
Eric of course too.
But I'm just saying like anyway,

879
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:28,400
red truck guy went from being a
0 to somewhat of a hero quickly.

880
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,320
I'm going to butt in.
It looked like the group when

881
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,080
they saw the red truck guy with
their body languages, like they

882
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,960
were ready to fight.
Oh yeah, it was.

883
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,160
It was weird to see him.
I was like, no, no, this guy's

884
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,680
actually stopped, Sorry.
What happened was ready.

885
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,800
But yeah, that's just the that's
like the I just want to under

886
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,080
score that like the move from
bad guy to maybe not so bad guy.

887
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,720
Right, 100%, yeah.
So, you know, Matt, I think

888
00:51:55,720 --> 00:52:00,960
directing traffic and you know
what, and Corey and I were

889
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,640
actually talking the other day
about this.

890
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,560
What, what's hard to appreciate
is how physically demanding

891
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:12,840
administering CPR really is, you
know, so, you know, Eric took a

892
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,000
rotation.
I'm sure a lot of people on this

893
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,720
call, Matt probably took a lot
of people took rotations because

894
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,840
you just physically have about
two to three minutes in you and

895
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,960
then, you know, you're maxed on
your own effort and heart rate

896
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,280
because of how hard it is.
And and then the other thing I

897
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,240
want to go back real quick to
Evan's comment.

898
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,880
You know, there was, I think
there was a lot of people in

899
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,760
that, especially as the, as the
moment got longer, as we got

900
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,360
deeper into the situation and
people were stopping, like there

901
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,680
was a lot of people that were
very emotionally traumatized

902
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,920
would be the word I would use.
I mean, people could see

903
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,880
trouble.
And I think I I saw people head

904
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,120
back.
They're like, we're not doing

905
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,600
this race.
We're done like we're

906
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,600
emotionally not going to make
this.

907
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,920
And I know we eventually had to
make a conscious decision on

908
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,120
whether we wanted to continue,
but there are a lot of people

909
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,800
that were really thrown.
I think in that moment, you

910
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,760
know, that weren't a part of the
whole experience.

911
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,720
Tunnel vision that that Matt
used was a a great experience.

912
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:25,960
You just kind of focus in on
what you're doing in the moment

913
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,080
and you do it.
Well, for you guys who did

914
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,600
compressions, let me just say
that you did them the right way

915
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,720
because you broke my ribs.
And from what I understand, if

916
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,200
you're doing chest compressions
the right way, then that's what

917
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,600
happens because you got to put
that kind of pressure on the

918
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,480
person to get their heart going
or whatnot.

919
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,400
So.
That's right.

920
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,240
You, you definitely did the
right thing.

921
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:49,360
I'm not mad about that at all.
I'm very thankful you did that.

922
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,280
So thank you, Matt and John and
everybody else that did that,

923
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,040
Eric, Otherwise I wouldn't be
here, I'm sure.

924
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,720
So thank you for that.
All right, and then before we go

925
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:02,120
to Annie and Shad, let's
actually confirm this.

926
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,360
Again, this is for Corey and for
others, right?

927
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,080
Who was actually doing chest
compressions?

928
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,000
I know I I did.
We all were.

929
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,520
OK.
I think until the until the

930
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,160
machine came to do it.
And then gents as well I.

931
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,600
Don't remember doing any chest
compressions actually, because I

932
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:24,160
was just so focused on holding
Corey's neck stable so I didn't

933
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:29,760
I think everyone John, Eric and
Arthur, John y'all are just I

934
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,560
think y'all are just doing great
doing chest compressions and

935
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,080
y'all you know yeah and and Eric
was just talking as well that

936
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,040
gents was also it sounds like so
it.

937
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,800
Was.
Yeah, and he also had. 4 of you.

938
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,200
Guys eyeglasses down Corey's
mouth to keep his tongue down.

939
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,920
So I remember doing chest
compressions and I so honestly,

940
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,080
I was probably the, I was the
first one to make actual

941
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,320
physical contact with Corey for
probably the first couple

942
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,400
minutes.
And I remember Matt telling

943
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,880
everyone what to do now, because
Matt had his head.

944
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,400
I remember that now.
It was it is the airway open,

945
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,320
Airways open.
He was watching everyone the

946
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,640
whole time and everyone was just
going one after one.

947
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,440
It was like it was a rotation
there.

948
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,600
I think there was more than that
was on this call because it was

949
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:14,160
a long time and it's and it's.
Yeah, it was it was constant and

950
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,240
and it was like everyone says
tunnel vision, right?

951
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,080
Everyone just finished.
Next person popped in.

952
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,280
There was no, no, no one skipped
a beat.

953
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,840
We were just going and going and
going.

954
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,400
I mean, people were exhausted
just doing it, and something

955
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,760
kept us doing it because he had
no pulse.

956
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,520
All right, Andy and Shad, we're
going to go to you guys.

957
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:38,440
Give us a sense for how things
went when you guys get the call,

958
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,120
whether that came from, as John
was saying, the CB radio for the

959
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,320
last person in America or
through the 911 call that Eric

960
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,080
got out.
Take us from there.

961
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:56,160
All right, so we, we got the
call through our 911 system and

962
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,960
when it was paged out, it was
paged out as a cardiac arrest.

963
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:08,480
And I don't want to sound like
like, I don't care, but when

964
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,840
it's paged out as a cardiac
arrest, our sense is kind of

965
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,480
heightened a little more than
they would for granny fallen.

966
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,760
I don't know if that sounds bad
or what, but that kind of, you

967
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,400
know, put us a little, you know,
a little peppermint step.

968
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:31,120
We got the call at 9:27 and we
got on scene at 935 S 7.

969
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,600
What is that?
8 minutes.

970
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:40,720
Almost 8 minutes, yeah, of the
of yo from the now one call now,

971
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:44,200
Yeah, I don't know how long
prior to a call getting out that

972
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,840
y'all were doing CPR and then we
had to Lucas on 2 minutes after

973
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,520
we got on scene.
So back up a little bit.

974
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:59,160
We were coming, we were in front
of the engine and when we kind

975
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,720
of get on a scene like that,
we're going to kind of take over

976
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:05,200
a road, shut it down.
We don't want cars coming back

977
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,400
and forth.
We pulled up just past everybody

978
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,680
and I look and I see Corey
laying on the ground and I'm and

979
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,680
the the partner that I had that
day, I looked at him and I said

980
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,160
this guy's dead.
I was like, we're working.

981
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,840
Nothing like he looked like
death.

982
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,240
We get on scene and someone
says, you know, we've been doing

983
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,360
CPR on them.
I heard someone say that they

984
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:37,840
were a doctor.
I guess we were just trying to

985
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,600
figure out like what transpired
as far as did he start

986
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,880
complaining of chest pain, was
anybody around was having

987
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,680
difficulty breathing, any kind
of any kind of little bit of

988
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,360
information that we can use to
help, I guess with our treatment

989
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,480
going forward.
So we put them on the what they

990
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,480
call Lucas device, which is a, a
box basically, and has a ponder

991
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,840
and it does continuous CPR for
us without stopping.

992
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,520
I have not had that my entire
career.

993
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,160
It is a lifesaver.
Doing CPR for any amount of time

994
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:18,960
is not fun.
But yeah, we just kind of rolled

995
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,120
up and I don't know how far you
want me to get into it, but we

996
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,160
rolled up.
I didn't think we were going to

997
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,120
be getting this person back at
all.

998
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,760
Yeah, keep going.
So it's kind of funny when we

999
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,040
got the call, like we said we
were, we were in the Bay.

1000
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,160
We had just honestly, we had
just gotten to the station.

1001
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,560
It wasn't probably 10 or 15
minutes before.

1002
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,920
And if you know anything about
our county, we're super busy all

1003
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,920
the time with limited resources.
And so truthfully, the fact that

1004
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,040
there was an ambulance available
when y'all called within 10

1005
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,280
minutes is a miracle in itself.
Truthfully, because 9 times out

1006
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,160
of 10 you would call and we
wouldn't even be available.

1007
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,560
You would have gotten an
ambulance 30 minutes down the

1008
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,760
road.
And that happens with a.

1009
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,960
Lot.
So we happen to be in the Bay

1010
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,280
just talking.
We were, I think we're probably

1011
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,120
talking about the race, what was
going on for the day.

1012
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,080
And so when this call came out,
like Andy said, it came out as a

1013
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,880
cardiac arrest, unresponsive.
And so we jumped in and took off

1014
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,760
down the road, took us a few
minutes to get there.

1015
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,800
And I do remember, like Andy
said, we shut the road down

1016
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,440
because there was a there was
traffic.

1017
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,400
There was a lot of people there,
from what I remember.

1018
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:38,200
And then like Andy said, Corey
was laying there and staying

1019
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,120
that he looked like death.
He was, he was as wide as the

1020
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,320
lines painted in the road.
He looked horrible.

1021
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,440
So I remember we, we were
getting information.

1022
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,600
I do remember when we were
finally able to put the Lucas on

1023
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,840
at one point.
I don't, I don't remember if

1024
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Corey's helmet was still on or
off by the time we got there.

1025
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,400
But I know when we started the
Lucas a lot of times because

1026
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,440
there's a piece that goes up
behind his back.

1027
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,200
And when we started somebody in
Corey's a little bit of a

1028
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,120
smaller, smaller guy compared to
the size that we typically put

1029
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,400
on that machine.
But his head would kind of start

1030
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,960
hitting the back.
And I think Matt said a second

1031
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,160
ago that he was kind of.
In that head holding C spawn in

1032
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,440
his in the airway region and I
remember asking somebody, hey,

1033
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,160
hold his head put your hands up
under the back of his head

1034
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,600
because it was hitting the
ground every single time it did

1035
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,720
a compression.
So I was like, he, he is dead.

1036
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,200
But we don't want to make
matters worse if we can help it,

1037
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:48,400
you know so.
Once we, once we get kind of the

1038
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,880
Lucas going and we get Corey on
the stretcher and put him in the

1039
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:57,400
ambulance, we put our monitor on
him where our defect pads where

1040
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,280
you see the people that say you
know clear and you shock them.

1041
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:07,520
When we first put the the
defibrillator on him, he had, he

1042
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,840
was flat lying.
They call that a Sicily.

1043
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,760
He had no cardiac activity
whatsoever.

1044
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,520
In that case, we went ahead and
started Ivs on him and we

1045
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,480
started giving him some
medication, epinephrine being

1046
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:26,160
one of them.
We eventually were able with

1047
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:32,920
epinephrine and a couple of
other drugs were able to get a

1048
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,560
rhythm in his heart that we
could give electricity to that

1049
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,120
would help.
We gave him electricity, I think

1050
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:47,720
what, 5 * 5 different times
throughout the whole call, which

1051
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:53,080
is it's a lot.
That's a lot for anybody we got.

1052
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,680
But go back just a little bit
when we got into the ambulance

1053
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,800
and we had him hooked up and
everybody's kind of doing their

1054
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,720
thing.
Like we all kind of, we know

1055
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,280
each other pretty well and we
know what each other thinking

1056
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,040
and, and what needs to be done
next.

1057
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,560
So after we had got him in the
ambulance and we had the monitor

1058
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,360
on him and stuff like that, I
went ahead and put a breathing

1059
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,000
tube down his throat so we could
breathe for him.

1060
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:25,800
Once we did that, and, and I
don't know if I've ever shown

1061
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:33,320
Corey this, but we try not to
get emotionally involved in

1062
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:38,280
calls.
It's just kind of, it's not.

1063
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,960
You're not taught that.
It's just kind of part of it.

1064
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:48,240
But I'm going to show this.
This is my father.

1065
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:56,760
Corey looks just like my dad.
And that's who I saw on that

1066
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,520
structure.
And in that moment, I didn't

1067
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,000
want to give up.
I mean, there was, you know,

1068
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,560
there was so many signs that
were saying, hey, we're doing

1069
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:13,560
everything we can.
And at some point you just say

1070
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,280
enough's enough.
I mean, the body can't handle it

1071
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,160
or the body's not going to
recover from this.

1072
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,720
But I don't know if it was, you
know, God inside of me or if it

1073
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,520
was just the thought of seeing
my father laying there.

1074
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,720
But we kept going and we did a
lot of things to Corey going to

1075
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:41,760
the hospital.
We were about 38 minutes into

1076
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,600
the call from the time that we
picked Corey up to the time we

1077
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,320
got to.
We say it's a little past our

1078
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:54,240
halfway point to the hospital.
We gave Corey one last shot.

1079
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:02,360
Corey got a pulse back with that
shock and his eyes fluttered.

1080
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:10,320
And in that moment I knew that
something happened that was more

1081
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,600
than what we could just do.
There was life that was being

1082
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:19,080
brought back into him, and that
was something that only God can

1083
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,080
do.
That that's how I feel.

1084
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:29,120
I do want to, I do want to chime
in right here because I think it

1085
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,920
was maybe 1 of the Johns that I
to talk to.

1086
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,400
So that day I was a firefighter,
I was on the fire truck.

1087
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,680
I'm a paramedic as well, but I
wasn't working like on an

1088
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,840
ambulance.
We're totally separate.

1089
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:48,280
So that specific day, I decided
to let his partner just right in

1090
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,160
the back with him and I jumped
in the front and drive.

1091
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,360
A lot of times when you have a
super critical call or it's

1092
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,600
something that involves a lot
going on, I would have jumped in

1093
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,000
the back with him because having
two paramedics in the back,

1094
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,240
having 2-2 people's thinkers
going.

1095
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,600
And so the reason I didn't jump
in the back was because in my

1096
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,920
mind it was, there was no
cardiac activity.

1097
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,120
In my mind, he was too far gone.
Like I was like, there's nothing

1098
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,840
I'm going to do back there.
I'm going to let his EMT partner

1099
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,960
be in the back because it's just
going to be a cookie cutter, a

1100
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,160
cookie cutter call.
They're not going to do anything

1101
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:27,960
else.
They're not going to get

1102
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,080
anything back.
We're going to get to the

1103
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,120
hospital and they're going to
call it.

1104
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,440
And that's what I vividly
remember thinking in my mind.

1105
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,840
And so when I was getting out of
the back of the ambulance to get

1106
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,880
the driver's seat to leave, it
was somebody that I cannot

1107
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,640
remember.
And it may have been, may have

1108
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,400
been you.
Yeah.

1109
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,680
He you said, hey, what does it
look like?

1110
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,920
And I said, it doesn't look
good.

1111
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,760
We're just going to go ahead and
go.

1112
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,200
But he's probably not going to
make it.

1113
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:57,480
I remember those words coming
out of my mouth and thinking

1114
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,480
back now to know that he was in
what we call a Sicily.

1115
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,440
He's a flat line PEA.
There's very no cardiac

1116
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,360
activity.
The statistics, and I've got

1117
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,280
some on my phone here, I'll
share in a second.

1118
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:16,360
The statistics for someone to
come back, regain a pulse and

1119
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:21,120
even walk out of the hospital
after an episode like that is

1120
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,960
almost 0.
So it's not anything I did what

1121
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,840
Andy did.
I think our skills and y'all's

1122
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,000
bystander CPR played a lot into
it, but it was more than us and

1123
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,880
it was definitely more than
y'all too.

1124
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,600
So I mean, it's, I mean, you can
call it a miracle.

1125
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,400
You can believe in what you
believe in, but at the end of

1126
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,280
the day, it was a God thing.
It was a miracle so.

1127
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,800
Lots there guys.
Thanks a bunch for sharing.

1128
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:55,120
So I want to hear from the rest
of the group in a second about

1129
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,520
what was going on for you guys
during this period of time.

1130
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,280
I remember observing that there
were a number of conversations

1131
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,520
happening, but let's just go to
the guys that were doing chest

1132
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:14,520
compressions.
Describe for us what was going

1133
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:20,840
on or what you were experiencing
when Andy and Chad and the team

1134
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,480
of medical professionals showed
up and essentially tagged in and

1135
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,400
allowed you guys to no longer be
primary on Corey.

1136
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,360
What was that like?
Yeah, I'll go first.

1137
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,440
I, I remember, I think it was
the conversation between the

1138
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,360
other John and Chad.
And we gave my contact

1139
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,960
information.
It might have been to Andy

1140
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,040
because we wanted to know,
right.

1141
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,600
I mean, the, we wanted to at
least get closure and whatever

1142
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,720
that looked like.
And we, we thought we would get

1143
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,920
updates on the course post
event.

1144
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,640
And ironically, one of the one
of the problems we were having

1145
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,480
was what do we do with Corey's
bike?

1146
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,840
That was a real problem.
Do you remember that Chad or

1147
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,320
Andy?
Like we, we couldn't figure out

1148
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,360
what to do with his bike.
I don't know that you could get

1149
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:13,760
it.
Like you couldn't get it on the

1150
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:19,240
fire engine or the fire truck.
Yeah, I, I do remember.

1151
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:25,560
So when we decided to take off
to the hospital, my partner that

1152
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,720
day, I think there was a
conversation maybe with you and

1153
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,439
him or somebody, because at that
point we didn't even, we didn't

1154
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,600
know Corey's name, we didn't
know his birthday.

1155
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,319
We had no information.
So what we end up having him do

1156
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:45,760
is he took off back to the start
line to try to find somebody in

1157
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,240
charge with like an emergency
contact.

1158
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:56,080
And he, Casey, he, he wasn't
able to make it, but he ended up

1159
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,960
finding somebody.
And I remember driving to the

1160
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,479
hospital, I'm talking to him on
the phone and I'm relaying

1161
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,120
information to Andy, given
Corey's name, his date of birth,

1162
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,800
his wife, Paula, who he finally
got a hold of all of her

1163
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,920
information.
And he was able to call her and

1164
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:21,439
in the most, the most reassuring
way, explain a little bit about

1165
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,240
what's going on, but not giving
too much detail because I think

1166
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,560
she was at Core, was at her
sister, your sister's house up

1167
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,359
in Sky Lake at the time.
And I think he had to call her

1168
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:35,920
several times because service up
there is pretty scarce.

1169
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:39,160
And he was able to talk to her
and say, hey, there's been an

1170
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,200
incident, but you need to get
down to this hospital in

1171
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,840
Gainesville, like, right.
Now.

1172
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,080
Because, and that was the only
way we even knew who he was or

1173
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,880
what kind of information we had
on them was the information that

1174
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,160
he gave prior to that race.
Yeah.

1175
01:09:55,160 --> 01:10:00,480
And and I think, well, Casey and
them took his bike back to the

1176
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:04,440
fire department actually.
And they came, I don't know if

1177
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:09,200
your son or if it was Paulo that
came and got the bike later on,

1178
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,560
but they ended up taking it to
the fire station.

1179
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:19,080
Matt or Eric or John, you guys
want to chime in at all in terms

1180
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:24,520
of after Andy got there and team
and the medical pros started

1181
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,560
taking over?
Definitely it was, I think it

1182
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,440
was like all of us, once the,
you know, Andy and Chad were

1183
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:36,320
there, I think we were able to
like sort of breathe like and

1184
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,520
take a deep breath and step
back.

1185
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,560
You know, I think because we
were so sucked, you know, sucked

1186
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:47,080
into, you know, what was going
on with Corey and our adrenaline

1187
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,360
was really going.
So I think when they arrived

1188
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,160
sort of like, OK, we can take a
step back and breathe and they,

1189
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,280
you know, the EMS is in control
now.

1190
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,920
They, you know, the
professionals are here.

1191
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,160
I don't have much experience
with, you know, cardiac arrest

1192
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,440
and cardiac events.
And I, I was optimistic because

1193
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:10,000
we started CPR survey that Corey
would, you know, I didn't, I

1194
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:15,000
didn't realize the gravity of
what had happened, but I was

1195
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:20,440
optimistic, you know.
Yeah, that transition, it was

1196
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:23,480
like gradual.
It wasn't, you know, it's not

1197
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:26,520
like a complete switch out
because there was constant

1198
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:31,920
service to Cory and, you know,
it was it was kind of gradual.

1199
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:36,080
But, you know, I remember
saying, hey, let's stop his

1200
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,640
garment because I bet there's
some useful heart rate

1201
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,120
information on there.
As it turns out, he wasn't

1202
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,960
wearing his heart rate strap.
So at the end, it didn't have

1203
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:45,800
anything.
But.

1204
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,960
But yeah, I would echo Matt.
And in that it was a bit of a

1205
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,160
relief.
But, you know, also sitting

1206
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:58,240
there going like, Oh my gosh,
this is, you know, 20 minutes

1207
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,080
ago or 25 minutes ago, I thought
this is somebody who drank too

1208
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,000
much coffee or, you know,
something, you know, it was

1209
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,560
something that would pass.
And here he is on the ground,

1210
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,320
you know, and it doesn't, and it
doesn't look good.

1211
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,120
Having not really been involved
in those situations that closely

1212
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,040
before, there was an immediate
like sense of, you know, kind of

1213
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,600
maybe agitation or maybe just
being annoyed of me expecting

1214
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,160
hot having watching movies and
how they jump in there and it's

1215
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,600
like chaos and it's all, you
know, everyone's like sense of

1216
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,280
urgency.
And it was the complete

1217
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,800
opposite.
Just very nonchalantly walk into

1218
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,240
him and I remember being like,
there, we have someone is dying

1219
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,360
here.
Why are they not rushing?

1220
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,680
And obviously they know what
they're doing.

1221
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,560
Obviously it worked out, but do
my initial reaction was like,

1222
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,280
well, I expected a little bit
more of like urgency and I

1223
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,200
expected them to have, you know,
the whatever you call those, you

1224
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,880
know, to jump his heart.
But obviously all of that

1225
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,640
happened once they put him in
the in in the ambulance.

1226
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,440
But that was my initial just
reaction of it being not what I

1227
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,760
expected.
But, you know, I have to, you

1228
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,800
know, I have to rely and trust
their training and knowing what

1229
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,440
they know, what they're doing.
Eric, what do you want to add?

1230
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:14,080
I know it's just almost surreal
listening to all the stories,

1231
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,960
right from all the different
vantage points.

1232
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,040
It was, you know, the transition
and almost reliving and now it

1233
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,000
happened so slow motion, right?
The EMTs came up.

1234
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,840
It was, and it's almost like you
were hesitant to like giving the

1235
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,480
reins away, right, Because we
had all been doing it everything

1236
01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:34,000
for so long.
And then I remember the EM TS

1237
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,200
took took over and it's like,
well, what do we do now?

1238
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,360
And you're sitting there like,
you know, you didn't know what

1239
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,680
to do, right.
I think everyone was so lost in

1240
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,000
a way.
You're standing there like just

1241
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,000
lost, dumbfounded.
And then when they loaded him

1242
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,920
into the ambulance and I wasn't,
you know, we were like, was they

1243
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,440
have a pulse?
That was they have a pulse.

1244
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,560
I remember asking one of the EM
TS that and said no, no pulse.

1245
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,720
And I just remember taking a
moment of silence.

1246
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,200
I said it was just, it was
weird, right?

1247
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,560
I just remembered getting back
on the bike after the land

1248
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,840
ambulance pulled away and just
pedaling and should we, should

1249
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,880
we go, should we come back?
Should we go home?

1250
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,120
This is weird.
I don't know.

1251
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,080
I don't know and I don't know.
I remember some of the crew that

1252
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,880
was there, we were all just
slowly pedaling.

1253
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,800
And I remember we asked that one
of the rest areas.

1254
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,600
I said, did anyone say anything
that would happen to the

1255
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,080
gentleman?
And they said, I heard he had

1256
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,400
his pulse.
They got a pulse.

1257
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,160
So at that point, I remember, I
don't know who was there, but it

1258
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,840
was like a shot of something.
And then we started peddling.

1259
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,960
And then at the end we said,
well, how was how was it?

1260
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,200
Well, we heard he's in the
hospital.

1261
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,480
He's, he's alive, he's, he's
doing well.

1262
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:45,680
And then I remember one of my
friends saying, you should see

1263
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,720
if he can get your time modified
for that segment.

1264
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,240
I said it's funny, but it's not
funny.

1265
01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:57,400
It was, it was, it was just
surreal, you know, and, and

1266
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,920
reliving it now it's just.
It's like, wow.

1267
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,080
Everyone, everyone was so In
Sync, hearing all the different

1268
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,960
stories and how they kind of
just molded together.

1269
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,960
It's just incredible.
But it's, it's a miracle.

1270
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,760
It's not.
It's nothing, nothing other than

1271
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:16,440
that 'cause he, he wasn't alive.
Yeah.

1272
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:19,280
I mean, it's, I think we, we
know all of that very, very

1273
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,800
plainly medically from, from
lots of people saying that.

1274
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,680
So Dan and Evan, what do you
guys want to add here?

1275
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,280
And, and you know, feel free if
there's anything, I know you

1276
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,880
guys kind of describe what was
happening for you at this point,

1277
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,040
but now that you've heard a
little bit more, if there's

1278
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,400
anything else that you guys want
to chime in with, feel free.

1279
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,800
The only thing I'd say is I
think it's really interesting

1280
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,800
that Andy pointed out first
thing, which is, you know, we

1281
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:50,040
feel this moment for us.
Was like endless, like a long

1282
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:54,080
time.
And the moment from call to to

1283
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,360
arrival on scene was less than
10 minutes.

1284
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,600
That's crazy to me.
I really didn't you you could

1285
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,200
convince me that this whole
thing happened for 20 to 30

1286
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,040
minutes.
That's not the case.

1287
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,600
And it and it's an interesting
fact.

1288
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,000
Yeah, good point.
We'll come back to some of that

1289
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:17,000
in a second.
Dan, anything you want to add in

1290
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,080
just like hearing all the other
additional perspectives,

1291
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,000
especially from from Andy and
Chad, you know, and what you

1292
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,720
guys did and the commitment that
you made the decisions that you

1293
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,760
made.
And it's just, it's so moving

1294
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,400
because I remember thinking
like, we just saw a man die on

1295
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:34,920
the side of the road.
I mean, I actually remember

1296
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,680
texting my wife when we got to
the top of that client after we

1297
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:42,160
decided to continue going.
I remember we got to the top of

1298
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,280
that client had enough service.
I remember texting my wife and

1299
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,800
just saying, like, I don't know
if it's Texas going to go

1300
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,080
through, I'll talk to you later.
But we just saw a guy die on the

1301
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,120
side of the road and I'll tell,
I'll tell you about it later.

1302
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:59,920
And yeah, I mean, just clearly
that's not the outcome that

1303
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:02,880
happened.
And you know, Eric Jones

1304
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,160
happened at your comment about
the timing.

1305
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,800
And there never, never been so
happy to come in almost dead

1306
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,160
last in a grand, grand fondo,
you know, because of the amount

1307
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,240
of time that elapsed there.
And I'm and I'm thankful for

1308
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,360
every second that we stood there
and, you know, try to do what we

1309
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:25,120
did.
So I remember watching the

1310
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:29,200
machine do chest compressions on
Corey.

1311
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,400
So I had, as mentioned, gone
back to the course.

1312
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:38,120
Marshall and I had been beaten
back to the scene by the

1313
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,440
ambulance.
So I never saw Eric and John and

1314
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:44,920
John and gents doing chest
compressions.

1315
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:50,920
I get back to the scene when I
see the medical professionals

1316
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:55,160
handling everything.
And so it was clear at that

1317
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:59,600
point to me that there was no
role for me to play at all in

1318
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:04,680
any type of physical sense.
And I also recall that I think

1319
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,720
it was Dan, but it may have been
other people even.

1320
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,680
I think it actually might have
been John without an H that was

1321
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,320
directing traffic because as
Andy had mentioned, the road was

1322
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,240
basically shut down, but there
was half a lane available and

1323
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,720
then enough of a shoulder to
kind of get people through.

1324
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,840
And so we were just trying to be
good citizens and help people,

1325
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,840
you know, get around.
And so there was ultimately

1326
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,320
nothing for me to do in any kind
of tangible physical sense.

1327
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:35,440
And as I was on my way to the
course Marshall and on my way

1328
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:40,200
back, I was praying.
And when I got back to the

1329
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:44,560
scene, I got off of my bike and
I remember being approximately

1330
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:50,240
15 feet behind the ambulance and
I got on my knees in the middle

1331
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,120
of the road.
And I was praying.

1332
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,440
And I was praying for who is
Corey, but we have no idea what

1333
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:03,040
his name is.
And I was praying specifically

1334
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:09,800
for God's glory to be revealed.
And I was asking him to bring

1335
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,640
this man back to life.
Now, I have no idea who this

1336
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,680
person is.
And like nearly all of us in

1337
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:22,240
this conversation, it was fully
my perception that that person

1338
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:27,920
was dead.
So Corey at the time, as we

1339
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,640
later found out, is in his mid
50s.

1340
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,520
He looked to me to be well into
his 70s.

1341
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,640
And I remember remarking to
myself about how old the guy was

1342
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,680
and I was surprised to see him
riding.

1343
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,200
Well, ultimately, I think that
was just evidence of the fact

1344
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,600
that there was literally no life
in him.

1345
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,640
And so he looked so massively
aged compared to what he

1346
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,600
normally looks like.
So similar to what Dan was

1347
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:01,680
describing earlier about seeing,
knowing many of us, you know,

1348
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,800
hearing there's no pulse,
checking for no pulse like Matt

1349
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,360
did.
It was very clear to me having

1350
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,480
never seen a dead person, that
Corey was dead.

1351
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,960
No question about it in my mind.
And I remember thinking to

1352
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,520
myself.
That they just loaded a dead man

1353
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,560
into that ambulance and I could
see the machine going and all of

1354
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,880
that and the lifelessness, just
sort of how Corey's arm just

1355
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:29,320
draped around as they moved him
and the Gurney and all of that

1356
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,680
type of stuff.
Well, this whole time I'm

1357
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:37,120
praying, and I was praying out
loud, which wasn't exactly a

1358
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,680
normal thing for me to do, but I
was praying that God would

1359
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,120
literally bring him back to
life.

1360
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:50,840
And when they loaded the dead
body into the ambulance, at that

1361
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,720
point, it was like it was over.
The whole thing was over.

1362
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:02,000
And admittedly, I was really, I
was disappointed because I had

1363
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:07,840
like been earnestly praying for
a miracle that God's glory would

1364
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,600
be revealed and that he would
come back to life because it

1365
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,120
sure looked like everything was
being done properly in order for

1366
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,360
that to occur.
And I'm like, God's got an

1367
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,640
opportunity to do this.
And so I've transparently was

1368
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:28,280
disappointed.
And I got up at that point

1369
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,520
because everything has clearly
been been done.

1370
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:38,200
And I remember standing next to
Chad, who was part of our group

1371
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:43,560
and just sort of looking at him
and he was many inches taller

1372
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,280
than I was.
So it was sort of odd to

1373
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:50,280
actually be looking up at him.
But I, I looked up at him as I'm

1374
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,760
standing up and he says, thanks
for doing that.

1375
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,600
I'm like, I'm thinking that's
weird, like what you know, and

1376
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:02,000
he goes, well, while you were
praying, I texted people at my

1377
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:07,520
church and they stopped the
service and all started praying

1378
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,160
for him.
So thanks for doing that to

1379
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,400
which I said to Chad, I was
like, well, thanks for doing

1380
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,920
that.
Like that's a big deal, at least

1381
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,760
to me it was.
So the ambulance drives away.

1382
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,800
We talked about this a little
bit more previously that, you

1383
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,000
know, I think it was John
without an H who was sort of the

1384
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,080
lead negotiator on getting the
guy running the fire truck to

1385
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,880
take the bike back.
Because where, you know, a lot

1386
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:41,000
of people were looking to to us
to like take the bike because,

1387
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,400
you know, our crew had been so
involved in this and we're like,

1388
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,040
we have no idea who this person
is.

1389
01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:50,000
And we're like, we're on a ride
too.

1390
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,480
Like you have big truck and
there's little bike, take little

1391
01:22:53,480 --> 01:22:55,360
bike and put little bike in big
truck.

1392
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,520
You know what I mean?
Like don't make us have to do

1393
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,800
something with this, you know.
And then eventually the fireman

1394
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,320
ended up taking it back and we
were quite relieved because that

1395
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:10,560
gave us the opportunity then to
have the decision as to whether

1396
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,520
or not we were going to continue
the ride.

1397
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,800
And so I'll chat for our group.
I remember all of us talking

1398
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:26,200
about that and being emotionally
wiped, but we, we were kind of

1399
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:30,920
deciding, discussing the, the
realities of like what we, we

1400
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:36,640
did everything we could and the
reason we came here was for this

1401
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,640
particular ride.
So maybe we should just decide

1402
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,600
to finish the ride out.
John, Eric, you guys continued.

1403
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,240
What was it like for you guys or
how did you get to that decision

1404
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,280
point?
Well, the ambulance took him,

1405
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,800
said you want to turn around or
what should we do?

1406
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,400
I said.
I said I don't know again, so

1407
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,280
let's just pedal.
I just want to.

1408
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,600
I just want to pedal and I just
pedaled.

1409
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,120
I don't remember racing because
I just pedaled and I remember

1410
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,440
taking the left up, up the hill,
right.

1411
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,360
And it got sunny again.
And I just remember pedaling and

1412
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,920
not talking until the top of the
mountain.

1413
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:12,960
And then we caught up again.
It's like, God, do you think

1414
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,560
he's all right?
I just remember that bagel.

1415
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,400
But yeah, vividly.
And then and then the first rest

1416
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,120
area, we found out that he
regained his bowls somehow.

1417
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,920
Someone said somebody found out
So, but it was.

1418
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,880
I just remember just peddling
but not even thinking about it.

1419
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,720
Just just to clear my head.
I guess, like we all do, right

1420
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,880
pedal to clear your head.
It was just part of that, but it

1421
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,400
was weird.
I remember that part of it

1422
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:45,400
really just vividly, climbing in
the sun, but with the no real

1423
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,120
emotion.
Just kind of like shocked, but

1424
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,840
just.
Peddling, yeah, I can relate to

1425
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,240
that.
And I distinctly remember, like

1426
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,080
you're describing, that left
hand turn where the climb.

1427
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,680
Was left in the yeah.
Yeah.

1428
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,600
But I don't remember the hill I
just remembered going.

1429
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:03,680
Saw the ambulance about to take
off.

1430
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,920
That's, I think that's when Eric
and I decided, hey, we got to

1431
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:08,320
get moving if we want to do
this.

1432
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,960
Yeah.
And then it was a very

1433
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:15,200
emotional, probably because it
was a, it was a good, it was a

1434
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,480
good 10:15, I want to say 10
miles before the next rest stop.

1435
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,000
And, and I remember that because
I blew out my legs.

1436
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,960
I mean, I we just went way too
hard of the adrenaline and just

1437
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,360
emotional and I mean, I
definitely cried on the way up

1438
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:31,240
so.
Yeah, I remember.

1439
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,120
So, you know, you're there.
You're in the place.

1440
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,440
There's this place that you've
been for about 30 minutes.

1441
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,640
There's all this meaningful
activity happening.

1442
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:46,400
The subject or the object.
That activity gets put in a red

1443
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:51,480
truck, doors close, it moves,
everybody dissipates, and you're

1444
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:55,520
still standing there and you're
like, what, what just happened?

1445
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,640
Like, did that really just
happened?

1446
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:03,920
And I, I think like Eric, I kind
of, I didn't want to ride with

1447
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,840
anybody.
I just wanted to process that,

1448
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,400
like what just happened.
And it was, it was really a

1449
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,840
roller coaster of, of emotions,
like for the next, I don't know,

1450
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:18,440
50 miles or whatever.
Yeah, because I didn't know that

1451
01:26:18,440 --> 01:26:22,360
he made it.
I didn't know that he was alive.

1452
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:28,080
Like I got to the since I, I
remember I'm nobody knows I'm

1453
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,840
there, like nobody in the
organization knows I'm there.

1454
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,560
So I get back to the finish and
I'm like, well, I should kind of

1455
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:39,480
tell the guy that putting this
event on that I think somebody

1456
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:42,120
died.
Like if he, I'm sure he knows

1457
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,680
this, but that I think somebody
died and I was there and I'm,

1458
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,600
I'm guessing he's going to need
some sort of statement for

1459
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,800
insurance or for what you do
when somebody dies.

1460
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:57,600
It's your at your event.
And he's the one that said, oh,

1461
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,560
you know, I, I don't think he's
dead yet.

1462
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:06,560
So, yeah, but it was a, it was
a, yeah, I needed that this

1463
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:11,560
space to to, to just kind of
process what happened.

1464
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:18,240
Well, Annie and Shad, let's go
back to the ambulance ride 38

1465
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:24,320
minutes in from time of call,
and now there's a pulse.

1466
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:32,320
Take us from there.
So once we got the pulse back,

1467
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,720
we put on what we call A12 lead
EKG, which basically takes 10

1468
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,640
different view picture of your
heart.

1469
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:48,160
When we did that, I could see in
that that Corey was having a

1470
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,480
heart attack.
I called the hospital, which is

1471
01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:56,160
Northeast Georgia Medical Center
in Gainesville and give them a

1472
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,400
heads up.
Hey, you know, this guy was in

1473
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,680
cardiac arrest.
We've got him back.

1474
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,400
We've done the EKG and he's show
on what they call a STEMI, which

1475
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:11,560
is AST elevated MI, which is a
mitochord myocardial infarction.

1476
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:16,560
Sorry, I can't talk.
And what they do at that point,

1477
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:21,240
it was alert the Cath lab, which
is where they'll go in and put

1478
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:26,800
stents in, open up the blocked
artery that was causing the

1479
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:35,720
incident to occur.
Once we so we were probably 12

1480
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:40,280
minutes away when I call and we
got to the hospital, that team

1481
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,120
was there and they were ready to
roll.

1482
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:48,920
So we went with Corey upstairs
to the Cath lab.

1483
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,800
We watched for a couple minutes
to just confirm our suspicions

1484
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,400
of the heart attack and kind of
could see where it was in the

1485
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,640
heart and then compare it with
the information that we were

1486
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,840
getting through through the Ek
GS.

1487
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:11,760
I think when we left there to me
and Chad were just kind of

1488
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,320
talking, you know, about the
call and I think we were both

1489
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,240
just kind of like, you know,
this guy was in cardiac arrest

1490
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:26,640
for 38 minutes for just us.
Now he has a pulse.

1491
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,120
There's probably not going to be
a good outcome or if there is a

1492
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:35,000
an outcome, it's not going to be
1 of good quality of life.

1493
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,080
We've, we've seen it, you know,
multiple times in our, in our

1494
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,080
field where, where there's not
such a good outcome.

1495
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:54,120
But the next shift that we were
back on duty, we were down at

1496
01:29:54,120 --> 01:30:01,640
Gainesville and the guy that I
was working my partner to

1497
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:07,840
checked to see if Corey was
still alive and to.

1498
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,800
Our.
Contacts or whatever they told

1499
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,000
us, yeah, he's still alive.
He's in the ICU.

1500
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,880
Me and my partner went upstairs
to to see Corey and that's when

1501
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:28,840
we walked in and he's sitting up
in the bed and he's like my

1502
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:32,120
chest hurts and I don't.
I don't remember any of y'alls,

1503
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:39,240
but I want to say it was your
mom, that Corey's mom that was

1504
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:45,320
there at the hospital and she
came and she gave me a hug and

1505
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,240
she said thank you for saving my
son.

1506
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:52,640
And Paula was there.
And I mean, just the, the

1507
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,840
overwhelming part of that and
being involved.

1508
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,440
And then now you're emotionally
involved in it and you want to

1509
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:06,640
see the progression of how he
does, how he continues to do is,

1510
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,760
you know, it it it's something
that we need to in our

1511
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,520
profession.
We need that closure.

1512
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:21,600
We need to know that what we did
be a very small part that God

1513
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:25,680
was in control of everything.
I mean, that's that's bottom

1514
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,960
line.
And Chad will agree with it with

1515
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:33,240
me on that one.
It's it's crazy to think I

1516
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,160
can't.
He's been doing this a lot

1517
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,520
longer.
Not feeling your age, but we

1518
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:43,080
run, we've ran, I don't know,
100 cardiac arrest, probably

1519
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,920
same kind of same scenario, same
situation.

1520
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,400
And you can count on one hand
how many outcomes we have like

1521
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:57,160
this.
And it's, and it's, it's amazing

1522
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:06,240
what, what bystander CPR does
for one, because that truthfully

1523
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,920
was probably one of the, one of
the biggest reasons why Corey's

1524
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,600
still here is because it took us
around just under 10 minutes to

1525
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,520
get there.
Within 10 minutes of not having

1526
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,880
CPR, someone's going to be brain
dead.

1527
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,120
Within 3 to 4 minutes without
anything going on is when was it

1528
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:27,960
is when the damage begins to
occur.

1529
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,600
So had the bystander CPR not
been going on, we wouldn't be

1530
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,080
having this conversation right
now.

1531
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,920
And that's not a take away of
any of the miraculous part of

1532
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,120
it.
But God's going to use

1533
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,440
everybody.
He's going to use all of our

1534
01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:44,640
hands to take part in this as
we've been listening to for the

1535
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,800
past hour or so.
And that's it's, it's just a

1536
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:53,120
part of it.
But the by center CPR is that is

1537
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:58,920
why Corey is here.
Right on, right on.

1538
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:05,160
Well, Corey, we're almost to
you, but I want to hear from the

1539
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,520
group.
Let's sort of like close out the

1540
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:14,400
day essentially because I
remember for our crew, we got

1541
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,760
back to, we got back to the
finish line.

1542
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,600
Evan, you met us there because
you took a little bit of a, a

1543
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:27,840
shorter route back and it was, I
believe it was then that we had

1544
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,720
heard, but perhaps we had heard
earlier, I don't recall.

1545
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:36,320
So maybe somebody can clarify
that when did our group find out

1546
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:41,280
that Corey might have still been
alive, although still in quite a

1547
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,600
quite a perilous situation?
Anybody recall that?

1548
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,200
I thought it was when Paula
called us during dinner.

1549
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,920
That's kind of what I remember
because I couldn't, we couldn't

1550
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:57,880
really get any good information
at the at the rest stops.

1551
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,120
I don't remember getting like,
we asked a couple people and

1552
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,760
the, you know, it's all
volunteers and information

1553
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:09,280
wasn't really flowing real well.
And then we were like barely

1554
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,680
getting to the last one without
them shutting down anyway

1555
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:17,280
because we're so late.
But we got a call from Paula

1556
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,680
during dinner and she was the
one that let us in on the on the

1557
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,840
news.
And the way that she voiced it

1558
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,400
was that, you know, they were
trying to keep him going long

1559
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,680
enough just to meet a new
grandbaby.

1560
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:37,120
And, and that was the goal, you
know, like Chad and Andy got

1561
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,600
them there.
And at this point they're just

1562
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:43,280
like hoping for him to stay
alive a little longer.

1563
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,440
They can, you know, have the
baby there or whatever.

1564
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:51,120
And she was, Paula was obviously
super upset and everything else.

1565
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,600
But at that point we were like,
huh, OK.

1566
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,920
We're all kind of sat there at
dinner and we were just like,

1567
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,520
OK, wow.
I guess, I mean, listen, not to

1568
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,520
upset anybody, but we literally
were like, well, he's probably

1569
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,960
going to be cognitively heavily
cognitively diminished, you

1570
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,080
know, or damaged.
You just can't go that long

1571
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:15,800
without.
And we we had not administered

1572
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,280
CPR, right?
I mean, it was all compressions

1573
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,800
because the protocols changed so
many times over the years.

1574
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:27,840
But we just thought that, you
know, this was kind of a, he's

1575
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:31,240
going to, you know, be there for
a few more days or however long

1576
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,200
they want to keep them on life
support and that's it.

1577
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:39,400
And that was until I heard from,
it might have been Andy a couple

1578
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,640
days later when he told me the
Chick-fil-A story.

1579
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,240
It was either Andy or maybe it
was Chad, I don't know.

1580
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,760
One of them called me when I was
back in Florida and was like,

1581
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:54,920
are you sitting down and told me
the Chick-fil-A story?

1582
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,360
And I'm like, what are you
talking about?

1583
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:03,920
So anyway, that's, that's kind
of how what I remember how it

1584
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:10,000
went down, yeah.
Anybody else have any other

1585
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,120
recollections from the end of
the the ride that they want to

1586
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,600
share?
Yeah, from the end of it, we

1587
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,720
were always wondering, you know,
we talked to the race director

1588
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,720
trying to find out who Corey
what, who he was, what happened.

1589
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,360
No one knew anything.
Right.

1590
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,800
So we looked at the score, you
know, the time chart afterwards

1591
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,680
against, we're driving home,
both of us.

1592
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,800
And he determined he found
Corey, the name that did not

1593
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,680
finish.
And then he looked onto Facebook

1594
01:36:38,440 --> 01:36:44,360
and I guess he found Corey's, I
think it was Corey's son's

1595
01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:46,960
Facebook.
And he reached out to him say a

1596
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:50,040
message.
I was just at the Grand Fondo

1597
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:55,000
and I think I helped your father
and I think he reached out to

1598
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,640
two different people and one of
them was Corey's son.

1599
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,240
And then he responded and that's
how.

1600
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,840
And then Paula reached out to to
to gents, and that's how we kind

1601
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:08,120
of heard all the news.
It's in my mind, he in my mind,

1602
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,000
he, I did not know that he had
survived.

1603
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,440
So in my mind, he was a goner.
So I felt like his family needed

1604
01:37:14,440 --> 01:37:16,200
to know the what exactly what
happened.

1605
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,280
And we were one of the last few
with him.

1606
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,120
And, you know, we took care of
him just meaning to tell him

1607
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,200
that that's really what the
drive was.

1608
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,920
And I very specifically remember
getting a list of the start

1609
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,560
times with everyone on there and
being like, oh, wow, let's just

1610
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,920
send this to, you know, they
send this to everyone, OK.

1611
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,600
And thinking in my mind, you
know, I bet I can identify who

1612
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:41,680
the person is.
And you know, just once I was

1613
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,720
able to narrow it down, I'm
like, well, this should be easy

1614
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:47,560
because most cyclists, what do
cyclists love more than riding

1615
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:53,240
post in their rides?
So I just knew the moment I

1616
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,280
would get a name, I would be
able to hunt him down.

1617
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:59,120
And then and then running into
like realizing he didn't have

1618
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,760
much social media outside of the
Strava account.

1619
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:07,160
But then somehow I think it was
when I was going through Strava

1620
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,440
account, I think I saw some
pictures.

1621
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,640
I'll have to go back and look,
but I believe so maybe I was

1622
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:18,120
able to get a hold of see his,
yeah, his followers on Strava.

1623
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,840
Maybe one of his sons was a, his
follower on Strava, of which

1624
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,520
then I sort of googled his name
and I found his Facebook

1625
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,200
account.
And then lo and behold, you

1626
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,280
know, he's on his, you know, his
son's pictures on profile.

1627
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,520
So I, I knew I was spot on that
I'd found him.

1628
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:37,080
And luckily I think Adam, his
son, I believe his name is Adam.

1629
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:41,760
I, I, luckily he got back to me
relatively quickly, which I

1630
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,040
honestly, I'm, I don't know that
there's been many happier

1631
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,520
moments in my life than just
realizing that he survived

1632
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,320
because I was like, hey, we were
part of that.

1633
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,120
So I'm so immensely proud of the
story.

1634
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,160
I, I tell it to everyone.
I I'm so proud of it.

1635
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,200
Then look what like last year we
all went, we went to riding,

1636
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:03,000
tether, gravel riding and I
couldn't keep up with Corey so.

1637
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,400
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
Stronger than ever.

1638
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,720
We we're going to go to you
Corey here in a second, but I'll

1639
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:16,200
just kind of round this out.
So I recall meeting Evan back at

1640
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:21,440
the finish line and going up to
the race director and saying,

1641
01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:24,360
hey, listen, similar what what
Jonathan H was talking about,

1642
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,840
you know, hey, we were involved
in that incident.

1643
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,080
We'd like to stay in the loop.
And so I remember giving that

1644
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,920
guy my phone number and asking
him to keep his posted, having

1645
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,800
very low expectations for
outcomes, but also that they

1646
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,920
would even follow up with us.
And so we then went back to our

1647
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,320
house eventually and cleaned up
and went out to dinner.

1648
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,160
And then John without an H,
You're right.

1649
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:54,280
That's how it went down that
Paula ended up calling me.

1650
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:58,560
I decided to answer the phone.
It was an unrecognized number or

1651
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,040
number that I didn't recognize
but was somewhat local.

1652
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,800
And so I thought, oh, maybe this
is related to everything that

1653
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,760
happened.
So I answered while we were all

1654
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,000
at dinner and it turned out to
be Paula, who I've never spoken

1655
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,640
to before.
She and I spoke briefly.

1656
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:18,280
And she began to thank me for
everything that I'd done.

1657
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:19,960
And I was like, I haven't done
anything.

1658
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,320
All I did was pray you got to
talk to the guys that actually

1659
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:27,560
did chest compressions.
So I handed the phone over to to

1660
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,040
John.
And then I remember you stepping

1661
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,840
away just to a quieter area to
be able to have a conversation

1662
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,720
with her.
And we kind of got a bunch of

1663
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:39,000
information after that.
So Corey, you get delivered to

1664
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:45,640
the hospital and tell us a
little bit about not only what

1665
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,280
happens, but what parts of it
you.

1666
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,320
Remember.
Well, that's the $1,000,000

1667
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:55,480
question, because unfortunately
or fortunately, I don't know

1668
01:40:55,480 --> 01:41:00,440
which one, I don't remember much
of anything at all from the time

1669
01:41:00,440 --> 01:41:04,720
I checked in that Sunday morning
for the Grand Fondo until

1670
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,080
basically that whole next week
until Friday.

1671
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,440
So I don't remember anything
about the incident at all.

1672
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:15,120
I don't remember.
I don't remember anything.

1673
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,440
Now, there were two interesting
things I remembered in the

1674
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:19,960
hospital, which may sound weird
and I don't know why I remember

1675
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,760
this, but I did.
You know, you have to go to the

1676
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,520
bathroom, one of those cups when
you're sitting in the bed.

1677
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,240
And so I remember I was filling
mine up so fast, I was having to

1678
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,000
call the nurses in there like
all the time to come.

1679
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:33,800
You need to come in here and
empty this thing out.

1680
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,360
Because I can't keep doing this.
So that's one weird thing I

1681
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:38,440
remember.
The other weird thing I

1682
01:41:38,440 --> 01:41:41,960
remembered in the hospital was
so at the time, the previous few

1683
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:46,160
years, me and my wife have been
doing intermittent fasting, so I

1684
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,720
wasn't eating breakfast.
So I remember vividly when I was

1685
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,800
in the hospital, they were like,
they came in and said, well,

1686
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,280
what do you want for breakfast?
And I was like, I don't need

1687
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:55,960
breakfast, but yeah, I'd love to
have breakfast.

1688
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,440
So I like, ordered an omelet
with all this stuff in it, which

1689
01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:01,120
I was surprised they gave me,
but they did.

1690
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,040
But that.
So those two things are two

1691
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,640
things I remembered in the
hospital.

1692
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,120
And I remember the day I was
discharged, which was that

1693
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,720
Friday, and Paula was there
obviously, and, you know, helped

1694
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,280
me get out and we met with some
of the doctors outside, took

1695
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:17,560
pictures.
And so I remember being

1696
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,560
discharged.
And another, another funny thing

1697
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,840
is that Friday when I was
discharged, she had been coming

1698
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,360
back and forth to the hospital
from Skylake and she had passed

1699
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,680
this, this ice cream place.
And she was like on the way

1700
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:31,800
home, she said, let's stop and
get some ice cream.

1701
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,520
So we stopped at the ice cream
place and got ice cream on the

1702
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,440
way back, which again, I guess
for a cardiac patient,

1703
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:40,320
especially that soon after that
happening, I'm like, is this a

1704
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:41,640
good idea?
I'm not sure.

1705
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:43,800
But anyway, I got like a
milkshake and it was the best

1706
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:48,160
thing I've ever had.
So well the stents were were

1707
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:51,280
fresh at that point, so.
I know, I know.

1708
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,800
Well, I guess I think that the
doctors just said, well, like

1709
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,800
you didn't have high
cholesterol, you didn't have

1710
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,120
this, you didn't have that, your
blood pressure was good.

1711
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:05,040
And the only thing I know for
sure 100% is that this is purely

1712
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:08,480
genetic.
So my 2 grandfathers, 1

1713
01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:12,160
grandfather died in his 40s, one
grandfather died in his 50s.

1714
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,320
My dad had at least one heart
attack.

1715
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,320
And I don't want to go off the
rails here about this story, but

1716
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,440
I'm going to tell it anyway.
Two years ago we were at my

1717
01:43:21,440 --> 01:43:25,640
house, my house here in Senoia,
and we were celebrating my

1718
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,520
grandson's 10th birthday.
And so my parents came over for

1719
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:31,680
the birthday celebration and my
dad just wasn't feeling quite

1720
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,360
right.
We to tell something's wrong.

1721
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,040
Well, throughout the night he
started feeling worse in our

1722
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,080
house and eventually we said
well let's just go back on the

1723
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,800
back porch and just lay on the
couch and just get some fresh

1724
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:43,760
air.
Well, he did that.

1725
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,640
Well the next thing we know he
had a defibrillator in his in

1726
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,520
his first heart.
That thing started going off

1727
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:54,920
like a lot and he went into flat
line situation just like I did.

1728
01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:59,120
And so I was on the phone with
911, and my daughter-in-law was

1729
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,760
doing chest compressions on him
on my back porch.

1730
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:04,920
And so finally the ambulance
showed up.

1731
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,160
They put him on the ground, and
they put the same Lucas machine

1732
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,400
on him that Andy and those guys
have put on me.

1733
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:19,640
Sorry.
It's OK.

1734
01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:34,900
So it was just really surreal to
be on the other side of the bat

1735
01:44:38,020 --> 01:44:42,920
and see that happened to my dad.
I just so I couldn't believe

1736
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:50,160
that I was just like in shock.
And he ended up passing away

1737
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:54,760
that night, which we weren't
really surprised because he had

1738
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,320
some serious heart issues and
problems.

1739
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:02,560
So but it was just it was crazy
to go through that situation.

1740
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,200
So similar to what I went
through.

1741
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,000
Well, I mean, it was sort of
similar, I guess, but you know,

1742
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,320
kind of the same thing And just
be on the other side of that and

1743
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,120
see what was going on with him.
And just like Andy, like you

1744
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,920
guys were talking, like when you
put that machine on a person, it

1745
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,640
makes their head bang back and
forth.

1746
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,720
And I was sitting there watching
his head banging back and forth

1747
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,680
just like my head had banged
back and forth even though I

1748
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:29,000
didn't know that it happened.
So anyway, I just want to throw

1749
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:32,880
that story out and just let you
know that, you know, a similar

1750
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,400
thing happened to me and I was
the other side of it and got to

1751
01:45:35,480 --> 01:45:38,200
to see it first hand.
And it was, it was scary and

1752
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,360
frightening.
So I can only imagine what you

1753
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:44,440
guys went through seeing me on
the ground that day, going

1754
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:46,600
through all that and everything
you did to help save my life.

1755
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:51,480
So yeah.
Well, Corey, thank you for I.

1756
01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:53,200
Didn't mean to get all emotional
about it, man.

1757
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,960
You know, I've talked to several
of these guys over the past few

1758
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,240
years about this and you know, I
think I cry every time.

1759
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,800
Yeah, the emotions are totally
fine here.

1760
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:18,980
Take your time man.
It's just hard because I, I

1761
01:46:18,980 --> 01:46:20,340
don't remember anything about
it.

1762
01:46:20,980 --> 01:46:25,020
And sometimes I'm like, did this
actually happen to me?

1763
01:46:27,220 --> 01:46:33,140
Which I know it did without a
doubt, but it's just so weird to

1764
01:46:33,140 --> 01:46:35,700
think about it because I don't
recall anything about it.

1765
01:46:36,140 --> 01:46:39,600
I don't know how it happened,
what happened the whole process

1766
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,560
of that week in the hospital.
I don't remember for the most

1767
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:45,360
part.
So, you know, it's just, I know

1768
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,560
it's hard for you guys to think
about it, but on my side of it,

1769
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:51,360
it's just like, I shouldn't even
be here.

1770
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,520
Like, how did this even happen?
Why am I still here?

1771
01:46:55,440 --> 01:46:58,040
Because like Andy, like you guys
said, I mean, maybe, maybe at

1772
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,600
best one out of 100 cardiac
arrest patients will survive.

1773
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:04,480
And that's not, those are not
good odds.

1774
01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:08,080
And especially for me to be back
functionally, functionally

1775
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,280
normally like I am.
I mean, I left the hospital that

1776
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,080
week and I was just like, OK,
well, what's next?

1777
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:15,160
Where do we, what are we doing
now?

1778
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,880
You know, it's like nothing
happened to me, even though that

1779
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,920
was not the case, so.
Yeah.

1780
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:24,520
You know, the the next week I
actually started working again.

1781
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:28,280
We stayed up in in Skylake for
like another week and I started

1782
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,200
working again.
And one of the weird things was

1783
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:34,120
this is I guess related to my
situation, but like, I couldn't

1784
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,680
type quite right.
I was, I was mistyping words.

1785
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,240
I was having to backspace a lot
and retype stuff and all this.

1786
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,600
So I'm sure that was the after
effects of what happened to me.

1787
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,920
But yeah, I mean, after that
everything just came back

1788
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,680
normally and it was like I was
nothing ever happened to me.

1789
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,920
So it's just so strange and
bizarre to think about that.

1790
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,800
Yeah.
And Corey, based on that you

1791
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:01,040
mentioned the backspacing and
those types of things mistyping,

1792
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,880
what would you say roughly
speaking, it was in terms of

1793
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:10,000
total amount of time until you
were back to quote UN quote

1794
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:14,720
normal?
I think mentally, I think it was

1795
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:21,400
probably no more than two weeks,
seriously, which I was shocked

1796
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,360
about that because like you
know, before that happened, that

1797
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,240
Friday, previous to that
happening, I was working on a

1798
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:29,760
project.
So I'm a professional hacker.

1799
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,520
So I hack into stuff and tell
clients how to fix their

1800
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,880
problems, that kind of thing.
So I was working on a project, I

1801
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:37,120
was in the hospital in the next
week.

1802
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:40,600
The next week I started working
again like on Monday, but I

1803
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,440
couldn't work fully a full day.
I was like really tired.

1804
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:45,200
So I had to take naps during the
day and that kind of thing.

1805
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:49,160
But by the end of that week, I
think I was kind of almost back

1806
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,000
to myself again for the most
part.

1807
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:53,520
And then it just got continued
to get better and better after

1808
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,920
that.
So I would say two to two to

1809
01:48:55,920 --> 01:49:00,320
three weeks after that incident
occurring, I think I was pretty

1810
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,800
well back to maybe where I was
before.

1811
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:06,600
So I didn't have any long
lasting mental problems or or

1812
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,120
anything, which is really
shocking.

1813
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:13,560
Yeah.
Well, round us out a bit with

1814
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,800
some of the physical
achievements that have occurred

1815
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:24,040
for you since then.
So you go from quite the how

1816
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:29,800
shall we say, dramatic Do not
finish or DNF of the Helen Grand

1817
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:35,440
Fondo in 2021 and then what
happened in 2223 and 24?

1818
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,160
Yeah.
So just after that happened, we

1819
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,040
came back down to Tyrone, GA,
which is where my mother-in-law

1820
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:45,520
lives.
We were staying with her while

1821
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,600
we're waiting for the baby to be
born and our motorhome to get

1822
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:49,440
worked on.
So we came back there and I

1823
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:55,280
continued working and Paula was
like, OK, you are not going to

1824
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:58,280
ride your bike again until you
go through your cardio rehab.

1825
01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:01,440
So I was like, yes, I understand
that.

1826
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:02,880
That's, I totally get it.
That's fair.

1827
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,840
I'll, I'll, I'll not do that.
So I went to cardio rehab and

1828
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,360
later in the summer, that
summer, I went through all that

1829
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,600
and that was all fine and good.
I had no issues.

1830
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,440
Everything was good.
Although I was the youngest guy

1831
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:15,680
in that cardio rehab class by
far.

1832
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,200
It was kind of funny because all
these other guys are in there

1833
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,520
were like, you know, 70 plus
years old.

1834
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:25,040
They were pretty old people.
So I went to cardio rehab and

1835
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,800
then we picked up our motorhome.
We traveled to Bentonville, AR

1836
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:32,040
and we were traveling with some
friends at the time.

1837
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,320
They just bought a motorhome
too.

1838
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:36,480
So we got there and I went out
on my first mountain bike ride

1839
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:39,440
with a friend of mine who was
also a cyclist there in

1840
01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:41,600
Bentonville, which is a great
place to do that by the way.

1841
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:44,600
And I was just remember that
first ride.

1842
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:48,880
I was just like sucking wind.
I was so like, I'm never going

1843
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,520
to do this again.
I can't do this.

1844
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,200
But to make a Long story short,
I continued to ride.

1845
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,200
I got back into shape.
We continued to travel until

1846
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:01,520
2022.
And so that next year I was

1847
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:05,680
like, we were up in Hiawassee, I
believe, which is close to

1848
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:10,080
Helen, still in the motorhome.
And I knew that the grand Fondo

1849
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:12,120
was coming up again.
So I was like, I'm going to sign

1850
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:15,760
up for this and do it again.
So I signed up for it and went

1851
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,680
over there and I met the guy
running the whole thing.

1852
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:21,160
His name is Ruben.
And he was like, what are you

1853
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:23,120
doing here?
Like he was like surprised to

1854
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:24,440
see me.
He couldn't believe I was there.

1855
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,360
And so I did the race and I came
in first place in my age group

1856
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:32,760
that year.
And then 2023 I went back again

1857
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:34,640
and I came in third place in my
age group.

1858
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,920
And then last year I went back
and got first place in my age

1859
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:42,040
group again.
So, you know, for whatever it's

1860
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,720
worth, I mean, I, I, I've been
doing this for 38 years.

1861
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,720
So, you know, I'll started out
racing on the road and do all

1862
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,720
that stuff.
So I've been doing this forever

1863
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:54,120
and it's kind of part of my, you
know, DNA at this point.

1864
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,240
Then last year I actually rode
over 15,000 miles.

1865
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,360
So, you know, it's not like I'm
a casual rider.

1866
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:04,520
I do a quite a bit of this stuff
and I do Tuesday night rides

1867
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:08,040
with Fast Race Group and I ride
Saturday mornings and you know,

1868
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:12,080
I just do all the stuff.
So physically I've gotten back

1869
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:13,640
to pretty much to where I was
before.

1870
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,920
And you know, I'm, I'm thankful
for that because I enjoy, I

1871
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,800
still enjoy doing it after,
after so long.

1872
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,680
So it's been, it's been a good
thing for me.

1873
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:24,040
Yeah, really wonderful, those
outcomes.

1874
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:28,280
I want to let the listeners know
too, though, that a professional

1875
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:31,680
cyclist and Corey, you are not a
professional cyclist.

1876
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,120
You mentioned you're sort of a
white hat hacker.

1877
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:38,360
A professional cyclist will
typically ride somewhere between

1878
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:44,480
15 and 17,000 miles in a year.
So for you to be at the level

1879
01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:50,280
that you were in terms of 15,000
miles in 2024, being post the

1880
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:55,080
myocardial infarction from a
handful of years ago is quite,

1881
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:59,000
quite astounding.
So really, really amazing.

1882
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:04,800
Yeah, I think I've, I think I've
recovered well and I've had to,

1883
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:08,120
you know, I guess to say the
least, I've had no recurring

1884
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,200
issues.
I go to cardiologist once a

1885
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,480
year.
I go to the the GP twice a year

1886
01:53:12,480 --> 01:53:14,440
for physical and checkups and
that kind of thing.

1887
01:53:14,440 --> 01:53:19,120
And you know, fact, I was going
to the cardiologist twice a

1888
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:20,160
year.
And then the last time I went

1889
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,360
the guy was like, I don't need
to see you for another year.

1890
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,040
So he just said don't come back
for another year.

1891
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:26,800
So I'm going back in May of this
year.

1892
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:30,880
And one thing they do when I'm
there, when they had me in the

1893
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,880
hospital in Gainesville, they
put a what's called a loop

1894
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:34,240
recorder.
They put a loop recorder in my

1895
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:36,240
chest.
It's not a defibrillator, but

1896
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:37,880
it's a loop recorder.
So it records my heart.

1897
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,920
And every time I go to the
cardiologist, they read the

1898
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,280
information off of it and tell
me if I've had any, you know,

1899
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:47,960
instance like tachycardia or
bradycardia or, you know, atrial

1900
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:49,320
fibrillation or anything like
that.

1901
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,920
And you know, since that isn't
occurred, I've had no instance

1902
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,560
whatsoever show up.
So that's good.

1903
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:58,240
And you know, my issue was
really not an electrical issue

1904
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,960
and it was a plumbing issue.
So it was just the, the arteries

1905
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:05,520
had gotten clogged up.
And you know, another thing

1906
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,320
which I don't think we've said
yet too, is one of those

1907
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:10,560
arteries was the LED.
So that's the widowmaker artery,

1908
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,840
which most people don't survive
when that happens.

1909
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:19,280
So, you know, the fact that I
survived is I think 80 or one of

1910
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,280
you guys said it before, it was
a total God thing.

1911
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:27,200
And I believe that 100% to my
heart, no pun intended.

1912
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:30,840
That's funny, I I literally
didn't get it.

1913
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:33,600
And then we're like, Oh no pun
Nintendo like that makes perfect

1914
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:34,880
sense.
That was a good one.

1915
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,280
That was a good one.
Well guys, you've all been

1916
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:39,920
awesome.
We've, we've got a few more

1917
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,360
moments here where we want to
land this plane.

1918
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:47,120
And we do that here on when you
look by asking everybody 2

1919
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:50,240
questions.
And the first of which is, was

1920
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:54,840
it coincidence or God?
And we're very intellectually

1921
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:57,800
honest here that not everybody
necessarily has the same answer,

1922
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:01,080
but we'll kind of go in a
similar order to where we went

1923
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,680
with the introduction.
So Corey, we're going to start

1924
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,520
with you and just give us a
quick response on from your

1925
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,800
perspective, was this a
coincidence that you survived?

1926
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:11,880
Was it a coincidence that
everybody was there?

1927
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:15,280
Or was this whole thing from
your perspective, kind of a God

1928
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:18,040
in action type of moment?
And then we'll roll through with

1929
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,160
everybody else.
And again, I can't overstate

1930
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,520
this, that it's really important
to me as the host here that

1931
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,280
everybody gives their honest
opinion on this and that we all

1932
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,280
have different opinions and
that's a OK.

1933
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:32,000
So, Corey, was it coincidence or
God?

1934
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,200
That's a very easy answer for
me.

1935
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:40,320
I think a lot of people could
say that this was coincidental

1936
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,080
and just random and just
happened by luck or whatever you

1937
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:48,000
want to call it.
But I say absolutely no to that.

1938
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,040
You know, the fact that I
registered for this is the last

1939
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,320
minute.
We happen to be in Helen any

1940
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,360
other day of the year, honestly,
we have been on the road for

1941
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:02,320
five years, almost five years.
I rode on the road by myself on

1942
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,840
gravel 100% of the time all
across our country.

1943
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,880
This could have happened any
other day and if I'd been out by

1944
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:14,640
myself, I would not be here
today, I'm sure of you know, and

1945
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,960
there were so many.
There were 300 some, some odd

1946
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,000
people in that, that Grand Fondo
ride that day.

1947
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:24,320
And you know, I don't find it
coincidental that there were you

1948
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:29,200
guys who stopped and helped,
thank goodness, and that other

1949
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:33,640
people helped as well.
And just the whole thing to me

1950
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:36,600
is is totally a miracle from
God.

1951
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,080
And you know, I've been a
believer in Jesus since I was a

1952
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:43,600
teenager.
And, you know, I've lived my

1953
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:47,480
life that way.
And I believe 100% that he saves

1954
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,280
me that day.
And he used you guys to do that.

1955
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:56,520
And I know it's fine if you
don't believe that.

1956
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:57,920
I get it.
I understand.

1957
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,480
But I just want to say for me
and for my family, we, we

1958
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,440
believe that that's exactly what
happened to God.

1959
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:06,640
You.
Yeah, God used you guys to save

1960
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,080
me.
He didn't put his hand directly

1961
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:12,520
on me and save me, but he worked
through you guys to do that.

1962
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,520
And without that, I absolutely
would not be here today.

1963
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:20,560
So, you know, I'm so thankful
that all you guys were there and

1964
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:26,440
that you decided to stop and
help because like Andy and like

1965
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:30,200
you guys said, if CPR and chest
compressions, that that's

1966
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:32,080
probably what saved me for the
most part.

1967
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,680
So thank you.
That's all I can say.

1968
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:40,200
Thanks, Corey.
All right, Jonathan H, we're

1969
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,200
going to go to you.
Coincidence or God?

1970
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:49,120
I'm going to say respectfully,
and I guess it'll go into sort

1971
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,360
of minutiae of how God is
working.

1972
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:58,000
You know, you know, is, is it
that, that you know, on one

1973
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:00,560
hand, I would, I would have, it
would have to, it would give

1974
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:03,960
credence to every time a
quarterback, an NFL quarterback

1975
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,360
prayed that whatever wide
receiver caught the pass and the

1976
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,720
end zone, you know, that that's
that's God working.

1977
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:15,680
But if, if you want to say that
it was God working through each

1978
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:20,800
and every person in caring about
each other, OK, I'll, I'll, I'll

1979
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:25,000
buy that.
But I'm, I'm not necessarily

1980
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,000
someone that believes God is
moving pieces around.

1981
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,120
I think it's an it's more of an
example thing.

1982
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:36,600
Oh, thanks for your response.
All right, John, without an HI,

1983
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:38,320
think you were up next in our
intros.

1984
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:45,880
Yeah, I think, I think there was
a confluence of events that came

1985
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:49,440
together.
And I'm glad we were there.

1986
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:54,920
I am so glad we were there to
save Corey and that we had each

1987
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:58,840
other and smart and capable
people.

1988
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:06,080
I, I think if there were
miracles like this, you know,

1989
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:09,200
God miracles, they'd be
happening all over the place or

1990
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,120
they should be happening all
over the place.

1991
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:14,720
For every miracle that someone
could point to that said God

1992
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:18,200
was, you know, transitioning
through the moment to save that

1993
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:22,240
person, I can point to 1,000,000
where I'm like, where was he?

1994
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:25,480
You know, why wasn't he there?
That for those people?

1995
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:33,440
So I fall on the side of, you
know, I think I heard a little

1996
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:36,160
bit of this and John, it's like,
hey, I think there's a lot of

1997
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:40,240
good people out there.
I think there's a lot of helpful

1998
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:43,280
people out there.
I think there's a lot of really

1999
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:50,440
good science out there that all
came together and, and help save

2000
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:52,960
Corey's life.
So totally respecting

2001
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,320
everybody's belief system.
You know, Mick, I, I totally

2002
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,960
everything that you've been
through and that Corey's

2003
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,720
described in his, his way of
life.

2004
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,240
I'm just.
You know, I think it was a

2005
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,720
fortuitous moment that we all
came together in that moment.

2006
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:12,360
Yeah, Rodger, that man, We fully
respect that on the show for

2007
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:14,120
sure.
So thanks for your honesty

2008
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:17,800
there.
All right, Matt, I think you

2009
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:22,800
were up next on intros
Coincidence or God.

2010
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:29,480
So, you know, Corey's event and
his incident, I think it's

2011
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:33,200
important that we all like came
together and we all deal with a

2012
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:37,520
role that day.
You know, there was a lot of

2013
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:43,560
coincidences, you know, and I
think the biggest thing is that

2014
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:48,800
we worked as a team and we were,
we weren't prepared for what we

2015
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:55,920
did, but we did it and and we
were together and everyone, you

2016
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:59,920
know, did their best.
We did our best to CPR and EMS

2017
02:00:59,920 --> 02:01:04,880
did their best to continually
shocking Corey and giving him

2018
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:09,360
the EPI.
And you know, like, like John

2019
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:18,880
and John said, they're if, if
you know, if I'm on the side

2020
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:26,040
that if this was a miracle and
that God, you know, if God was

2021
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:28,040
involved, then there should be
more.

2022
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:33,400
Events like this.
Which I just I think that our us

2023
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:38,840
being there was a, you know, we
did everything we can do and

2024
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:41,600
ended up in a positive outcome
and, you know, we're happy to

2025
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:43,600
have core with us.
Yeah.

2026
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:45,600
Right on, man.
Thanks for the honest answer.

2027
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,520
All right, Dan, how about you?
Coincidence or God?

2028
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:54,880
Yeah, Yeah.
Since we're at five years, four

2029
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,040
years and thinking a lot about
this, especially leading up to

2030
02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:01,720
the show here today.
And I just for me, there's just

2031
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:07,840
so many the cumulative effect of
all the contributions people

2032
02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:12,800
made that will big and small and
seemingly inconsequential at the

2033
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:15,160
time or hugely consequential at
the time.

2034
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:21,880
Like I just, to me, I can't, I
get good faith label that as a

2035
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:24,880
coincidence or, or just a
culmination of coincidences.

2036
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:29,600
Like there's, there's a, there's
a bigger hand at play there.

2037
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:34,200
And so in, in my mind, and I
think a lot about this, there's

2038
02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:37,920
no doubt this is a miracle and
that God put the people that

2039
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:42,720
Corey needed together in the
right place in the right time to

2040
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:46,040
do the right thing.
And thank God all of those

2041
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:50,280
people chose to to take an
action and do the thing that we

2042
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:53,560
were put there to do.
Yeah.

2043
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:55,440
Thanks for your honest answer,
man.

2044
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:58,200
Appreciate it.
All right, Evan, you're up.

2045
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:04,320
Coincidence or God?
Yeah, it's a tough question for

2046
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,560
me.
Coincidence or God, I don't

2047
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:09,320
know.
I still don't know four years

2048
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:13,200
later.
But I'll share that I was moved

2049
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:19,160
heavily emotionally that day and
I do live my life.

2050
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:24,560
To the fullest and respecting
the time that we have here on

2051
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:30,080
this earth and opening my mind
up to new perspectives and it

2052
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:36,880
challenges me to to to explore
and, and I respect it and and it

2053
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:38,040
has opened.
Me up to.

2054
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:45,000
Another sort of opportunity of
where I've felt something

2055
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:50,640
spiritual in my life since.
So I'm curious.

2056
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,600
I'll just say that I'm a curious
individual, but I don't know.

2057
02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:59,160
And I am thankful and
appreciative of everybody

2058
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,960
sharing their story and being
able to to talk to Corey today.

2059
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,360
I think it's really, really,
really cool.

2060
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:06,560
So thanks.
Yeah.

2061
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:11,320
Thanks for your honest answer.
All right, Eric, you're up.

2062
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:15,280
Tell us coincidence or God?
I mean, I'd, I'd, I'd say it was

2063
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:19,800
more, it was God.
I just too many, too many things

2064
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:23,920
had to line up absolutely
perfect down to the second, down

2065
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:27,000
to the minute.
And being in the middle of

2066
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:32,200
Helen, GA with no middle of
nowhere God's country.

2067
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:35,600
Let's just say that just there's
no other, there's no other

2068
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:38,520
explanation for me.
I mean, I grew up Catholic,

2069
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:41,080
Catholic school and that's
ingrained in my upbringing.

2070
02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:46,040
So yeah, I would say it's it's a
miracle from from God that

2071
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:50,800
Corey's here with probably even
better performance he had before

2072
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:55,280
the incident.
Yeah, well thank you for your

2073
02:04:55,280 --> 02:05:01,000
honest answer.
Hence coincidence or God like I

2074
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:06,320
like I said, all of the above.
I would, I would say I don't

2075
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:10,840
think the outcome would have
been the same if you took out

2076
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:13,680
any little portion of this
entire event.

2077
02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:16,800
I don't think you can take one
hair out of this event and it

2078
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,040
the outcome be the same.
I don't believe so.

2079
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:23,400
I think the number one
contributing factor, it's just

2080
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:27,840
Corey's resilience and just him
being in well outside of his,

2081
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:31,160
you know, the, the arteries and
his heart just being in great

2082
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:33,760
condition and his body just not
giving up.

2083
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:38,440
And like I said, his body was
sending me messages that, hey,

2084
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:41,120
this is working when we were
doing CPR.

2085
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:45,480
So I would say his resilience,
his training, his just desire to

2086
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:50,000
live the right people at the
right time and right place.

2087
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:54,760
And for him to have been as out
for as many as long as he was,

2088
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:58,760
it's almost medically impossible
to not have any brain damage

2089
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:00,400
from the lack of oxygen for that
long.

2090
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,560
Like it's impossible.
Look, it's very rare.

2091
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:07,480
So yes, there's definitely some
God in there, some higher power

2092
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:11,880
that just saw the greatness of
all these people coming together

2093
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:16,840
for, for one cause and, you
know, sprinkling in some, you

2094
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:19,760
know, some good deed, you know,
just just some good fate out

2095
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:23,000
there. 100% I think it's a, you
know, sum of all parts.

2096
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,800
Yeah.
Thanks for the authentic answer

2097
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:29,840
there, Andy, You're up next.
Coincidence or God?

2098
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:36,600
There's too many factors and,
and, and I serve a big God and I

2099
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:40,400
wanted to see 100% believe it
was a it's a God thing.

2100
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,280
God put us all there.
It's bigger than it's bigger

2101
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:47,080
than all of us.
Thanks for your honest answer,

2102
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:48,760
Shad.
Yeah.

2103
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:55,720
So yeah, to piggyback off you
and Dan and Eric, so many

2104
02:06:55,720 --> 02:07:00,120
moving, so many moving parts, so
many things to orchestrate in

2105
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:05,520
this entire thing, even just
core, even showing up to the

2106
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:09,520
race.
And then everyone else is what

2107
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:11,320
happened for y'all to get there
too.

2108
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:14,120
To me, it just doesn't make
sense.

2109
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:18,120
And for me and Andy, we and then
I think for what Matt said that

2110
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:21,960
he does too.
We see death and we see people

2111
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:25,920
hurting, people dying, people
struggling every single day that

2112
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:30,840
we work.
So we see a lot different aspect

2113
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:36,680
of public than most people see.
And several of y'all have said

2114
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:41,160
something about how this is
tragic and for for a normal

2115
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:42,680
human being.
I'm not saying that we're not

2116
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:45,440
normal for, for a normal
layperson.

2117
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:49,440
This is this is something that
somebody shouldn't ever have to

2118
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:52,960
see.
And unfortunately it's it's the

2119
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:56,960
profession that I don't believe
we just chose.

2120
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,760
I believe it was it's it's a
calling.

2121
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:05,440
Any biblical person would say
that what they do is a calling

2122
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:10,960
it something that God kind of
placed on the inside of them to

2123
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:16,120
do or to pursue.
And for me and Andy and what we

2124
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:20,560
do, you have, you have to be a
certain kind of person and not

2125
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:28,080
to be hard or just blunt, but
you have to be able.

2126
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:30,240
We see, we see little babies
die.

2127
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:33,320
We have to deal with screaming
parents and we have to deal with

2128
02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:38,600
certain, excuse me, certain
things that most normal people

2129
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:42,280
would say.
I have PTSD after this or I have

2130
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:47,920
to go see a psychiatrist after
this because of the the tragedy

2131
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:50,600
and the the things that to take
place.

2132
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:53,880
So, and that's just to put a
little bit of behind of what we

2133
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:58,600
we see on a day-to-day basis.
So circling back to your

2134
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:01,760
question, whether this was God
or whether this was coincidence,

2135
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:06,520
there's just too many, there's
too many factors and the stars

2136
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:11,640
just didn't happen to align that
day several years ago.

2137
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:17,800
And to know that when we were
leaving the scene and Corey was

2138
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:19,880
in a flat line, he's an
asystole.

2139
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:23,600
There's no heart function.
I know on TV people see the flat

2140
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,760
line and they automatically go
and clear, let's shock them.

2141
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,160
That's totally false and that
just doesn't happen.

2142
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,920
But to have somebody come back
from that cardiac rhythm, which

2143
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:39,120
is death, that that doesn't
happen.

2144
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:43,120
And I mean, I'm not here to push
my belief on anybody because

2145
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:47,320
everybody has their own opinion.
But it's hard for us to do what

2146
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:53,000
we do and not grasp hold of how
God really does orchestrate

2147
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:55,040
things from our point of view,
you know?

2148
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:59,120
So that's just how we say it.
So 100% miracle.

2149
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:03,720
Thanks for your honest answer
and the additional info there.

2150
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:06,720
Appreciate that.
And since I participated in

2151
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:11,000
this, I have to respond as well.
So the question to me is

2152
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:15,120
coincidence or God?
For me there is nothing close to

2153
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:18,920
coincidence for this.
There is every bit of God in

2154
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:21,880
action for this.
I'll leave it at that since I

2155
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:25,280
think you guys have all outlined
so well all of the different

2156
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:28,840
moving pieces.
But for me, it's 100% got an

2157
02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:31,600
action type of moment.
All right, guys, Well, let's do

2158
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:34,200
final question for Corey and
then we'll throw it out to the

2159
02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:37,160
group.
Corey, how has your life changed

2160
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:41,320
as a result?
Of this, that's another really

2161
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:46,000
good question, Mick.
It's hard.

2162
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:50,760
I think I've described it before
when I said, you know, I have a

2163
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,280
hard time sometimes figuring out
that this really happened to me.

2164
02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:58,880
So, you know, I know obviously
it it did happen and I said that

2165
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:04,720
before, you know, prior to this
event, I felt as though my life

2166
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:07,480
was pretty good.
I mean, I've been a Christian

2167
02:11:07,480 --> 02:11:09,520
for most of my life.
I've lived that way.

2168
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:12,880
Not had a lot of drama or stress
in my life.

2169
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:16,040
I've I've actually had a pretty
easy life kind of up to that

2170
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:17,280
point.
I mean, there were a couple of

2171
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:19,760
things that happened, like my
youngest son being born in our

2172
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:22,600
car.
That was 1 crazy incident.

2173
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:24,120
But anyway, that's another whole
story.

2174
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:31,120
But yeah, my life was pretty
easy up to that point.

2175
02:11:31,120 --> 02:11:34,960
And then after that happened,
you know, and I've had four

2176
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:39,240
years now to reflect on it and
pray about it and talk to God

2177
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:43,920
about it and try to figure out,
you know, what am I supposed to

2178
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:45,640
be doing?
Why did you save my life?

2179
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:49,960
Do you have something bigger for
me to do?

2180
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:53,840
You know, and I firmly believe
that when when you pray to God,

2181
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:57,360
he says one of three things.
He says yes, he says no, or he

2182
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:01,920
says wait.
And I think maybe I'm still in

2183
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:04,600
that waiting mode trying to
figure out what do you have

2184
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:06,720
planned for the rest of my life?
Am I supposed to go do something

2185
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:09,280
really big for you?
Or, you know, what am I supposed

2186
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:11,480
to do?
So, you know, I'm kind of in

2187
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:15,520
that mode right now, but you
know, I certainly it gave me a

2188
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:18,080
much better appreciation of life
because none of us are here

2189
02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:20,200
forever.
We're all going to die.

2190
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:25,120
It's a matter of how and when.
So I do appreciate life every

2191
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:26,480
day.
I appreciate waking up every

2192
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:30,800
day.
And I mean, I think that's kind

2193
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:33,840
of how I would summarize how how
I've changed after it.

2194
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:37,840
You know, again, my life was was
good before, it's been good

2195
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:40,960
after.
You know, I certainly feel bad

2196
02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:43,960
for Paula because she's the one
that took the brunt of all of

2197
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:46,120
this.
And I think she still has some

2198
02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:51,680
PTSD when stuff goes on.
Like I was in a crash like a

2199
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:55,200
year after or a week after moved
into this house, had to separate

2200
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:57,840
his shoulder.
But anyway, you know, that stuff

2201
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:01,080
happens when you're on a bike.
But anyway, I just think that,

2202
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:07,360
you know, I'm kind of so I'm
kind of doing OK.

2203
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:09,360
I mean, I think I'm doing fine.
And, and I do have more

2204
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:11,760
appreciation of life and, and
what it really means to live

2205
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:14,080
and, and that God's given us
only a number of days on this

2206
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:17,160
earth and we just need to use it
to the best that we can to, to

2207
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,800
honor and please him.
So I think that's that's my

2208
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:24,440
short slash long answer to that.
All right, well, we appreciate

2209
02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:26,560
the response.
OK guys.

2210
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:31,120
So it's the final question and
it's a free for all to all of

2211
02:13:31,120 --> 02:13:33,680
you and it's the same one.
How has your life changed?

2212
02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:35,880
Anybody that wants to respond is
welcome to.

2213
02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:39,680
Nobody necessarily needs to, but
we are glad to hear your

2214
02:13:39,680 --> 02:13:43,320
perspective.
I'm, I'm going to go ahead and,

2215
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:50,880
and jump in and this is what
it's shown me is that if, if it

2216
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:53,320
looks like you can help, you
should help because there's a

2217
02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:55,680
chance you may be the only
person that's there at a very

2218
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:58,400
important time.
It's not really a choice.

2219
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:01,080
You may think you have a choice,
but it's not really a choice.

2220
02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:03,040
Right.
Anybody else have any thoughts

2221
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,440
how your life has changed as a
result of this?

2222
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:07,720
Nick, can I just add one more
thing to my?

2223
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:09,600
Yeah.
Go ahead and answer that

2224
02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:10,640
question, man.
Yeah.

2225
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:14,280
Yeah, this is just a story that
just happened like literally 2

2226
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:15,920
Saturdays ago.
And I told to Nick about this

2227
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:18,600
already.
He knows about it, but I was

2228
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,720
doing a Saturday morning group
ride and you know, it's normal

2229
02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:24,320
Saturday morning group ride.
And we were fine.

2230
02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:27,120
And then got it kind of toward
the end of it, there was a group

2231
02:14:27,120 --> 02:14:30,120
of us who were in the front.
Another guy gotten dropped from

2232
02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:31,680
the group.
And so he was taking a shortcut

2233
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:34,480
coming back into town.
And we were going up the same

2234
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:36,160
road and we noticed something in
the middle of the road.

2235
02:14:36,160 --> 02:14:37,120
There were a bunch of cars
stopped.

2236
02:14:37,120 --> 02:14:38,640
And we were like, what's going
on out there?

2237
02:14:39,160 --> 02:14:44,360
Well, we get out there and this
guy who was 69 years old had

2238
02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:49,200
been hit from behind by a big
truck and he was laying on the

2239
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:51,080
side of the road and he was
unconscious.

2240
02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:53,800
And he was kind of probably, he
was convulsing, I think, like I

2241
02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:55,240
was probably doing the same
thing.

2242
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:59,440
And he was totally out of it,
looked like it didn't look good

2243
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:03,720
at all.
And so I just stopped and prayed

2244
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:06,960
right there for him.
And you know, there was not much

2245
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:09,400
we could do except somebody
called 911.

2246
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:12,960
They showed up and they end up
having to life flight him out of

2247
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,120
there, which when the helicopter
showed up, I was like, this is

2248
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:19,920
not good at all.
And so when he was laying there

2249
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:22,280
on the ground, I found his cell
phone and I actually picked it

2250
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:23,600
up.
And I was the one I called his

2251
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:27,480
wife and told her that her I
said, is your, your husband a

2252
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:28,640
cyclist?
And she said, yes.

2253
02:15:28,640 --> 02:15:33,040
I said, he's just been struck by
a truck and they're taking off

2254
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:35,080
in the ambulance.
And she was hysterical, probably

2255
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:37,240
just like Paula was when she got
the call about me.

2256
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:41,040
And again, that was another
thing where I was on the other

2257
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:44,000
side of the story, just like
with my dad at my house.

2258
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:47,200
And I was just like, I can't
believe this is happening to me

2259
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:52,480
like again.
And so they took him off and

2260
02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:54,160
unfortunately, he did not make
it.

2261
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:55,920
He passed away like this past
week.

2262
02:15:56,040 --> 02:16:02,760
So I just want to throw that out
as just another part of my story

2263
02:16:02,760 --> 02:16:07,000
that, you know, it was not
coincidence that I was there

2264
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:10,400
that day.
And it's terrible that he passed

2265
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:13,120
away.
But you know, I just want to add

2266
02:16:13,120 --> 02:16:14,520
that that piece in there if
that's OK.

2267
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:20,480
Yeah, that's tough too.
Sad for that family.

2268
02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:25,040
Well, guys, sort of last call
here on how your life has

2269
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:29,760
changed or been impacted by the
Corey Eubanks incident.

2270
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:33,280
Nick, I'll just say quickly, I
mean, I just, I think it's just

2271
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:36,600
really reinforced for me.
You can't ever underestimate the

2272
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:41,000
power of people taking action
and coming together to influence

2273
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:43,480
an outcome.
I mean, I know I mentioned in my

2274
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:46,879
response to your first question,
and I do feel very strongly that

2275
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:49,360
all of us were put there for a
reason to take an action.

2276
02:16:49,360 --> 02:16:52,400
But the action is still a choice
that people have to take.

2277
02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:56,520
You get put in situations all
the time where you can choose to

2278
02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:59,000
take an action or not.
And I I just think it's

2279
02:16:59,440 --> 02:17:01,959
reinforced with me that when you
see something or you're

2280
02:17:01,959 --> 02:17:05,080
experienced something or you're
put in a situation and you're

2281
02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:07,799
given a choice to make, that you
make a choice that you feel like

2282
02:17:07,799 --> 02:17:11,160
can out, you know, help somebody
or influence an outcome in a

2283
02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:13,600
positive way.
Yeah, I agree.

2284
02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:16,600
And.
Just realize how fragile really

2285
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:19,520
everything is, right?
You happy and appreciative of

2286
02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:23,959
what you are today and what you
could influence and, and and

2287
02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:27,639
move moving forward.
All right, I've become a better

2288
02:17:27,639 --> 02:17:31,000
person, I think in that respect,
just realizing the fragility of

2289
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:35,200
of everything, of life, of
everything, especially as I get

2290
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:39,680
older, right, approaching 50, my
kids are getting older and it's

2291
02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:43,959
just just be a good person.
You're right, doesn't always

2292
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:47,320
have to be the religious aspects
if you just always be a good

2293
02:17:47,320 --> 02:17:51,080
person and like the end just
said, help help someone.

2294
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:56,879
I think well put here for a
reason, but we don't know what

2295
02:17:56,879 --> 02:17:59,559
that reason is yet.
We'll find out one day.

2296
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:05,719
It's almost life prior to this
event and after this event and a

2297
02:18:05,719 --> 02:18:09,639
little bit of that coincides
with, you know, you know, COVID

2298
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:12,520
and I believe that's very same
day.

2299
02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:16,680
And when we're driving back, we
wife had made, we've made an

2300
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:18,639
offer in a lake house, which we
ended up getting.

2301
02:18:18,639 --> 02:18:22,600
So, so it's a lot of things that
happen in that that are tied

2302
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:27,080
together, which has really,
definitely changed my

2303
02:18:27,080 --> 02:18:31,400
perspective.
And just slow, slow down, look

2304
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:36,559
around and you never know who
don't just assume things.

2305
02:18:36,559 --> 02:18:39,559
You never know who can be
helpful, who can improve your

2306
02:18:39,559 --> 02:18:42,120
life in your in your immediate
surroundings.

2307
02:18:42,920 --> 02:18:46,000
Just looking at life a little
bit more holistically and being

2308
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:48,719
more of a believer.
You can train and you can

2309
02:18:48,719 --> 02:18:51,840
prepare for all you want.
There's always going to be that

2310
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:55,559
last piece that that extra
secret sauce, that extra higher

2311
02:18:55,559 --> 02:18:58,520
power that has to come into play
for things to align.

2312
02:18:58,760 --> 02:19:02,120
I really believe that.
Yeah, right on.

2313
02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:06,879
It just gives you hope.
And everything we were going

2314
02:19:06,879 --> 02:19:09,080
through with COVID, it just gave
me more hope and humanity.

2315
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:11,320
I mean, just everyone's
willingness to jump in.

2316
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:16,160
We spent 45 minutes of our, you
know, Saturday helping someone

2317
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:17,920
outlook at what came out of
this.

2318
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:19,879
I mean, it's just immense
benefits.

2319
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:26,360
So I'd love telling the story of
just how much of an impact this

2320
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:29,160
has had and just just tell us
changed my perspective in life

2321
02:19:29,160 --> 02:19:33,840
And, and, and people like
there's always something out

2322
02:19:33,840 --> 02:19:36,680
there that you can learn and you
can find something new.

2323
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:38,520
People, you know, people you
never thought you'd have

2324
02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:41,600
something in common with end up
having a lot more in common than

2325
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:43,959
you realized in.
And it was interesting because

2326
02:19:43,959 --> 02:19:47,600
you just made it a point a
moment ago about, you know, we

2327
02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:55,960
spent roughly 45 minutes and yet
that changed a lifetime.

2328
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:04,960
You know, it's funny, like I'm
55 this year and we've seen like

2329
02:20:04,960 --> 02:20:09,720
in our demographic, seen a lot
of people that have had.

2330
02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:14,680
Heart issues, you know, I guess
we're just at that age, like one

2331
02:20:14,680 --> 02:20:17,240
of my best friends right over
here in Dunedin had a heart

2332
02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:20,640
attack a couple years ago.
And one of the takeaways, I

2333
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:25,800
think I learned from him and the
instance with Corey, it's like

2334
02:20:26,320 --> 02:20:30,200
be smart, be proactive about
monitoring your own health.

2335
02:20:30,280 --> 02:20:34,800
You know, heart scans are are
like super easy to get now.

2336
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:39,960
Modern medicine is just getting
better and better.

2337
02:20:39,960 --> 02:20:43,000
There's you know, you should be
able to know what's going on

2338
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:49,960
with your body to to and, you
know, just like Corey described

2339
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:54,880
his familial genetics, like my
buddy, his own father had had a

2340
02:20:54,880 --> 02:20:58,520
heart attack and series.
So genetics are real, you know,

2341
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:04,640
and if you're predisposed, you
should be on top of it, whether

2342
02:21:04,640 --> 02:21:09,600
you're 40 or 50 or whatever.
So that's one big take away for

2343
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:14,800
me in all of this health walls.
Yeah, and I'll just say, add to

2344
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:18,200
that every single person I tell
this my story to.

2345
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:24,400
If it's a guy, I'm like #1 do
you have family history #2 have

2346
02:21:24,400 --> 02:21:26,920
you ever gotten your heart
checked for any potential

2347
02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:28,440
issues?
And I tell them I try to

2348
02:21:28,440 --> 02:21:31,040
encourage them.
Look, go do something.

2349
02:21:31,520 --> 02:21:34,840
Don't just sit back and then
think that you may seemingly be

2350
02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:38,080
healthy, but maybe you're not,
you know, because none of us

2351
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:39,400
really know.
Exactly.

2352
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:43,400
So I always encourage people
just go good, good heart scan or

2353
02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:45,920
whatever you want to call it.
You get your heart checked by

2354
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:49,160
somebody.
And, you know, because it's just

2355
02:21:49,160 --> 02:21:51,680
like John said.
I mean, that's, yeah, that's an

2356
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:54,360
important thing to do for sure.
And I never went to the doctor

2357
02:21:54,360 --> 02:21:56,160
part of this incident.
Like, I've not been a doctor in

2358
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:59,120
probably 15 years.
Not that the doctor would have

2359
02:21:59,120 --> 02:22:00,200
picked up on something like
this.

2360
02:22:00,200 --> 02:22:04,520
But nonetheless, I think it is.
It's good to be proactive with

2361
02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:08,520
this kind of thing.
I mean, I'm, I'm grateful we

2362
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:14,760
have new friends and Paula and
Rick Corey and just to, you

2363
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:20,160
know, be a small part of their
life and, and how they have told

2364
02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:23,880
the story is it's been an honor
to be honest with you.

2365
02:22:24,400 --> 02:22:28,680
Yeah, super, super cool.
I think right after Corey got

2366
02:22:28,680 --> 02:22:33,480
out of the hospital, it was, I
don't know, two weeks after the

2367
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:37,800
incident, he came up to the
station and we, we got to take a

2368
02:22:37,800 --> 02:22:39,320
picture with him.
We got to see him.

2369
02:22:39,320 --> 02:22:42,840
Andy's got pictures on his phone
of the whole thing.

2370
02:22:42,840 --> 02:22:47,040
And then a year after that, when
he, the first time he placed

2371
02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:49,880
first back in his age group,
I've got another picture with

2372
02:22:49,880 --> 02:22:53,840
him almost a year to the day of
his incident.

2373
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:56,720
So all these things have been
super cool and like Andy said,

2374
02:22:57,880 --> 02:23:00,320
like we've gained friends out of
them now.

2375
02:23:01,120 --> 02:23:04,800
Corey and Paul are super, super
sweet people and we'd do

2376
02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:07,920
anything for him.
So this has just been it's an

2377
02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:10,040
experience that I wouldn't wish
on anybody.

2378
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:14,600
But again, the good out of it
has been pretty, pretty cool to

2379
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:17,760
see so.
Yeah, that's wonderful.

2380
02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:22,680
Really, really cool stuff.
Yeah, and you guys are always

2381
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:24,640
forever going to be part of my
story.

2382
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:33,760
So I'm I'm doing it again.
I'm sorry.

2383
02:23:34,280 --> 02:23:41,040
I get it, it's OK.
But just thank you guys for

2384
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:44,640
everything you did.
For me, hey Corey, another thing

2385
02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:48,560
that I do want to say to you is
a second ago when you were

2386
02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:52,160
saying you're kind of wondering
what your purpose is now and

2387
02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:57,000
why, why you felt like the Lord
was gracious enough to give you

2388
02:23:57,000 --> 02:24:00,240
another day.
You know, one thing that is cool

2389
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:04,120
just for you to be for your
knowledge is I teach EMT classes

2390
02:24:04,120 --> 02:24:06,360
too.
I'm I've taught a couple past

2391
02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:10,800
couple years and when we get to
the section of cardiac stuff and

2392
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:14,800
CPR, you are always the story
that I tell.

2393
02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:21,000
So you are, you are the real
life, the real life story that

2394
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:26,480
I'm able to use to teach them
how to do it, what to do.

2395
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:30,280
And especially when we do CPR
classes, I can't tell you, I

2396
02:24:30,280 --> 02:24:32,600
can't even count how many times
I've already used your story.

2397
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:37,840
So if it helps one other person
knowing bystander CPR or while

2398
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:41,920
we're teaching EMT classes to be
a better provider, I mean, to me

2399
02:24:42,120 --> 02:24:43,960
that that's worth it in my
opinion.

2400
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:46,120
That's awesome.
Yeah.

2401
02:24:46,120 --> 02:24:48,560
Thank you for that.
I mean, that's encouraging for

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me to hear that.
And yeah, I mean, if that's how

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God wants to use my story, then
then that's great.

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I think that's that's awesome.
Thank you.

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Well, guys, I want to end on a
what I think is a quite light

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note, particularly because, you
know, all is well.

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It ends well.
So Lassiter, tell us about the

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conversation that you and John
had about rescue breathing.

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So while John was in CPR and I
was at that holding Corey's

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head, John looks at me.
I don't know if he's I think he

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may have like paused for a
second and he says, should we do

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mouth to mouth?
And I just look at him and I'm

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like, just keep going, like just
keep impressions.

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Like, you know, you know, maybe
now I do mouth to mouth.

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But I, I was, I was relieved
because I didn't know if Corey

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had COVID.
I was like, oh man, yeah.

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I didn't want to, you know, to
catch COVID or whatever else.

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I didn't know Corey so.
But maybe you know now.

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Like I think I'd be convinced to
do mouth to mouth.

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Well, I want to thank you guys
for coming together, for

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creating this memento for the
family, for capturing so many

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02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:25,120
perspectives here.
Thank you so much for your

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02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:28,400
opinions on things, for your
recollections of things.

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It's been a real pleasure having
you guys on, so thank you a

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bunch.
That for me.

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Yeah, thanks for putting it
together, Mick.

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Glad to do it.
Well, there you have it.

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Was it coincidence or God?
You decide for yourself, but I

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believe you just heard a story
for His glory.

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