Could the Fire Give More Than it Took? | Colin & Casey | 019

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We felt almost immediately that
the fire gave us more than it

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took.
Wow, that that is a bold

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statement.
Say more welcome to When you

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look where ordinary people share
their extraordinary experiences

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and you get to decide was it
coincidence or God?

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Colin Casey, so great to have
you guys both on When you look.

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Glad to have you here.
Thanks for having us.

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It's.
Awesome.

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We're happy to be here.
It is good, Yeah.

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It's good afternoon.
Indeed.

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Yeah, excited to have you guys
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You guys have a super amazing
story to share, so we are

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absolutely thrilled to be able
to hear that.

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But before we get to that, why
don't you guys tell us a little

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bit about yourselves?
My name is Colin, This is my

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wife Casey.
We live in Hanover County in

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Virginia.
I have been a firefighter here

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in the town I grew up in for 17
1/2 years.

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You.
We have two kids, 11 and 13, and

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Boy Girl, and I'm in sales.
I've saw cybersecurity to

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hospitals.
I invented a baby mitten called

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a hand sock.
So I have that business that

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runs in the background and I'm a
children's book author.

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Awesome.
Well, thank you guys both for

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giving us a little bit of
background and insight into you.

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In terms of background, let's
get into the background of the

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story.
So give us a little bit of that

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back story and then walk us
through things as they unfolded

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for you guys.
It was almost two years ago.

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I was coming home from a work
event.

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Colin was playing baseball with
Charlie, so we weren't home and

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our daughter was at the horse
barn and I came home from a work

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meeting to my son's room on
fire.

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It spread through the house very
quickly, and then all of a

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sudden it was gone, like
everything.

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And it was really fast.
We lost everything that we had,

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and we lost our pets, and we had
two dogs and two cats in the

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house.
And then we were just sort of,

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you know, staring at each other
like that just happened.

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We're OK now, but it was really
traumatic when it happened.

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And we we have the best
neighbors.

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We live with our neighbors for
about a month after that.

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And then we were like, what do
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So we bought a camper and we
lived in our driveway, which was

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very memorable.
The four of us in a camper.

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We bought the biggest one we
possibly could.

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Yeah.
We made a lot of memories in

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that camper.
So I, you know, God shows up in

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unusual ways.
But anyways, when they came to

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our story really starts, well,
there's lots of miraculous

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things that happen.
But when they came to level

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everything out, you know, people
say like, you know, is there

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anything, anything left?
I'm like, no, they took

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everything.
They levelled it, level the

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ground.
And when we were living in the

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camper, something special
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And I'll let Colin tell that
part of the story.

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I had someone that works that
I've worked with for a long time

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who also does land clearing and
landscaping and demolition.

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And so he came and demolished
the house, took everything away,

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cleared and flattened the land.
And I remember I was cutting the

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grass just around the bare
property.

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Like you just continue to do
your normal chores, like cut the

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front yard, cut the backyard.
There's no house here, but I'm

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going to keep doing my chores.
And I remember seeing like weeds

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that were starting to grow up
from where the old house used to

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be.
They have been cleared,

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flattened.
And, you know, life is life

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finds a way and weeds and things
start to grow.

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And I'm like, whatever, no big
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I'm not going to touch kind of
stuff around the perimeter.

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And then I remember, I don't
know if a week or two goes by

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and we're just walking around
the front yard and there were

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trees that had been lifted and
uprooted when they were

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clearing.
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tree stumps and roots and
everything just piled up around

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this area from where they were
trying to clear the land.

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And we were going to save some
of the wood to do stuff with

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that was on the property.
And in between, you know, piles

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of stumps and roots and logs was
kind of this opening in the same

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location that pretty much the
front of Charlie's room on the

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front side of the house was.
And they, the weeds weren't

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weeds, they were sunflowers.
I mean, like it, it was like 5,

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you know, perfectly unharmed,
untouched sunflowers, which made

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zero sense to me, you know, and
to Casey, it's her, it's her

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favorite flower.
Not making this up.

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You know, they're just some
things in life which you know,

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we'll get to in this, in this
interview that you just can't

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explain that they they weren't
touched, they weren't

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demolished, they weren't run
over, they weren't dug up.

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No one threw seeds down.
No one planned anything.

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Nobody came over.
I'd literally text family

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members, friends.
Did you show up?

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Did you sprinkle seeds like Jack
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Did you do anything?
And they said, no, I even, I

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mean, I asked Emily and Hunter,
did you come and sprinkle seeds?

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I asked Casey's mom and friends
and they said, Nope, none of us

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did anything.
So, you know, you're just kind

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of floored that this her flower
in front of Charlie's room where

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the fire started untouched,
unharmed during demolition and

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and land clearing grow out of
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So it was incredible.
It was just kind of like an

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awakening moment, like, OK, I'm
not going to ask questions

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anymore.
It felt good, Mick, You know,

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like the sunflowers.
I was like, those are my flowers

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and it's.
Just a sign, you know, you, you.

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I think everybody waits a
lifetime or, you know, to even

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have any kind of sign, whether
it comes to them or not, you

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know, because you can't make
those things up.

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You don't fake feelings that you
get from, you know, the Holy

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Spirit or who, whoever, whoever
you're expecting to appear.

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So for up for me, I was like,
oh, OK, that's it.

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I don't.
I'm not asking.

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Yeah.
Well, let's stay here for

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another, another moment though.
So it sounds like the sunflowers

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are very, we'll call them
strategically placed.

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OK, you guys have talked about
that quite a bit.

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But Colin, tell us a little bit
more about like that, that

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feeling that you experienced
where you knew this is not

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random.
I think logically and

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scientifically, I think you go
through the common sense

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approach first.
Like I'm going to ask all these

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friends, OK, did somebody come
and do this?

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Like my common sense, a real
realism approach to life, like

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is sometimes battles for
optimism, like there's a fine

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wall between us, which I think
is good.

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So I, I try to get to the root
of it and I'm like, there's God.

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There's a logical explanation
for this, you know, and then it

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just because there were no
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all.
We, we had a garden in the back.

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There were vegetables, you know,
but not anywhere.

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So after we saw it and, you
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know, we would just have these
blank look on our faces and we

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would look at each other and be
like, hands up, I got nothing.

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So you know, my, my growth it
spiritually and, and on a walk

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of faith with Casey has grown
substantially over, you know, 17

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plus years where, you know, she
has made me a better person and

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kind of led me in the direction
of faith.

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And I've found my own way into
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And so there just have been
things along the way that have

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kind of been like, Yep, you
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here's another word.
And then that.

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And when that happened, I was
just like, OK, you know, there

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there is a reason, you know,
there's a reason where we are

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perfectly made.
There's a reason the the earth

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is, you know, perfectly in the
center of this, away from the

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sun, away from this.
Explain.

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It's like I explained my show
and I was like, how, how, how do

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you not have faith?
You know, you have to because if

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you, you know, if you don't,
then what, why, why are we here?

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So for me, it was just like
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That is like an aha moment,
like, OK, I'm good.

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You take control.
Yeah, awesome.

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Well, Casey, what was it like
for you?

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Well, I mean, they're my
favorite mix, so all right,

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well, thank you.
Jesus.

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And they came up right where the
fire started.

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They weren't like over here or
over there, which would have

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been nice too.
But the fact that they they came

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up and there was a daddy.
I know I've said this before,

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but I'm like a big sunflower and
then one like a little smaller

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and like 2 little baby
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I mean, it really is like this
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family of flowers, right where
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And I just thought like those
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Like that's our light in the
darkness that is our like, I've

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got you.
I have control over this

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situation, which feel where you
feel helpless and you don't know

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what's going to happen next.
I had a plan for you the whole

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time and I'm right here.
You're not alone.

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And the fact that all of that
stuff happened to like that

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looks, if you see the pictures
of all the trees he's describing

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where there's these huge piles
of trees and just these little

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perfect sunflowers, like
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I'm thinking to myself like,
that's it, right?

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That's how we are.
Like here's all the stuff in

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life and like, you know, here we
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These little sunflowers,
completely delicate, could have

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been smashed, but completely
protected and we just felt loud.

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I mean, there's no other
explanation for it.

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I've used this story as part of
the theme for the children's

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book that I wrote, which is
called Above the Ashes, which is

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focused on light in the darkness
and the sunflowers, I feel like

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are a perfect picture of that.
But more than that, And when I

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talk about the miraculousness of
this, you know, I, I have a

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prophetic friend who I'm going
to talk some in this story.

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But this prophetic friend, let
me give you some background on

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him.
First of all, he comes from

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Liberia and my mom met him in a
Jiffy Lube randomly.

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He needed a place to live for
like 6 weeks.

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He ended up living with us for
like 4 years and until he

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brought his family over, he was
an asylum until he brought his

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family over from Liberia.
So he had a wife and four

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children and this whole thing
right?

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This random person from Jiffy
Lube who loves Jesus.

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So he told me a couple months
before our fire that I would

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move, that we would move.
And I thought to myself, this

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guy is never moving away from
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He loves this land.
He loves everything about it.

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And I remember pulling out of my
driveway and thinking to myself,

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like, Lord, like your will, like
whatever it is that you want.

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Like if you want us to move,
like I guess we're moving.

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I don't know.
He said so many things to me

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over the years that have
actually happened.

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He spends a lot of time with
Jesus.

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So when he said like, you're
going to move from this house, I

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thought, I don't want to move,
but, you know, but it never

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struck me, never struck me that
our house would catch on fire.

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I mean, it's just a couple
months later and our house got

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on fire and we did in fact,
move.

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So it was about six months after
the fire that I felt like I

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should write a children's book
to help 'cause our kids, I mean,

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they, I mean, they had a hard
time processing it.

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They came through it, but I just
felt like kids needed something

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to help them process fear and
process trauma.

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And so I was boarding this plane
and I felt like God said like,

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OK, now's the time.
So we get, I get on the plane, I

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write for two solid hours, I
land in Arizona and it's done.

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And I thought, like what, what
just happened?

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I didn't have access to the
Internet up there.

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I was writing on my phone and
then I got down in in the book.

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I was like, OK, I need a
scripture here about this.

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I need a scripture here.
But I didn't have access to the

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Internet.
So then I got down.

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I immediately was like, OK,
what's what scripture do I want?

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And however the Holy Spirit was
speaking to me and I finished

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it, adding scripture in and then
it was done and I was like, OK,

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I put the book away.
I told one girlfriend about it

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in Hawaii.
That's it.

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I was like, I wrote this book.
I think it's good.

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God told me to write it.
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Thanksgiving was just a few, was
just a few weeks later.

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Our friend from Jiffy Lube who
lived with us, he's been having

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Thanksgiving with us every year
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And he walks in and for the
first time in 20 years, he's

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like, God gave me a scripture
and we all have to say it out

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loud, all of us.
And there's probably 30 people,

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10, at least 10 kids, very
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We all have to say it out loud.
And I'm like, and then he pulls

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out the scripture and I'll read
it to you.

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It's Psalm 24/7 through 8.
Now, this is not a scripture

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that I know, definitely not a
scripture that we know, not one

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that I really heard for before.
It's this lift up your heads O

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gates and be lifted up O ancient
doors that the King of glory may

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come in.
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The Lord strong and mighty, the
Lord mighty in battle.

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So this is the exact scripture.
It's actually 2 verses and he

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comes in and he's like this
scripture.

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We all have to say it.
So I mean, you hear it 30 times.

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Even the babies, you know, like,
you know, 8, they're probably 8

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years old, you know, saying the
scripture and it kind of gets

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into your head and you're like,
what are we doing?

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Like, this is the weirdest
exercise.

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this Thanksgiving.

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I thought these people are going
to think that we are so bogus.

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Thanks for the invite.
We're all chanting the

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scripture.
I'm like, Oh no, what's

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happening?
Anyways, So then like we left

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there and the first week of
December, I was like, I got to

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get back to my book.
I got to, I got to do something

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with this book and I open it up
and I start from the beginning

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and I read the book and I'm
like, this is so good.

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This is so good.
I love this story.

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I can't believe we wrote this,
me and Jesus.

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So and I get all the way to the
end and, and I swear to you,

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it's the scripture.
Like those two verses, those

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weird random verses that I've
never heard before at the very

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end, my which I had forgotten
were even part of my book.

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I'm like, boy, that sounds kind
of familiar, but I don't know.

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It's like my mouth fell open.
I was like, Oh my gosh, like his

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two scriptures that we all
chanted together at

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Thanksgiving.
They were at the back of my book

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and I thought to myself, this
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Like God said, write it.
It was his book from the

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beginning.
All these words are his, not

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mine.
This is his story he wants

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people to know about and isn't
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Like, you're going to move,
Casey.

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And then I have this book, which
is a beautiful, beautiful

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testimony of light and darkness
and just the devil doesn't get

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to win and God overcoming all
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And it ends with a scripture
about God being mighty in

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battle.
And I just love the whole thing.

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That's it.
Yeah, praise God.

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That's so good.
That is so good.

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So we've got the sunflowers,
we've got this, the prophetic

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words of hey, you're going to
move.

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We've got the same exact
scripture being spoken as what

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was previously written, with, of
course, your friend having

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absolutely no idea.
So really, really, really

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amazing.
Let's rewind, though, almost to

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the beginning.
Tell us a little bit about what

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it is like to face what you
described very briefly, which is

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that we lost everything because
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What's that like?
I have perspective on that being

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that I work in the fire service.
A lot of times, you know, most

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people don't have a concept in
their normal day-to-day life

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with family or work where
they're exposed to that kind of

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trauma, the physical or
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So when it happened to us after,
after you have time to process

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it, I think when you're when you
look at as a, as a faith

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perspective or who is chosen and
why, right?

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Whenever something bad happens,
it's like why me or why them?

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Because that's the that's the
age-old question.

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A lot of a lot of good things, a
lot of bad things happen to good

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people.
So do I think whenever I would

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ask her or, or the, my
perspective is that if it was

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chosen for me, like if it was a
battle between good and evil,

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light and dark, we, we are, we
were able or strong enough to

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handle the situation or we were
chosen because maybe we can

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rebound and and bounce back
better and stronger than someone

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else.
So if it had to happen to

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anybody, the way that I looked
at it, the with it had to happen

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to anybody.
I was OK with it happening to

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us.
OK, because she wasn't hurt.

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Charlie wasn't hurt.
Gillian wasn't hurt.

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Pets are unfortunate.
You know it a little bit more

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replaceable than the sunshine.
So you know in the higher.

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I told Casey I would repeat
about then the hierarchy of

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emotion in life like the
Unfortunately the pets are done

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that.
But we I felt like with our

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faith and the amount of love and
how close our family was, I felt

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like we were were able to to
rebound from it much stronger

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than maybe someone else could.
If it had to happen to somebody.

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If it had to happen to somebody,
I was OK with it happening to

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me.
And I'm glad it to happen to us.

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And somebody that maybe didn't
have like friends and family or

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community, you know, those kinds
of things that could rally

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around, we felt very supported
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And so I've been like, you want
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You don't want it for yourself.
I've been, I've been to lots of

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house fires where, you know,
complete destruction.

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Yeah, and either they have no
family in the state or they have

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no friends.
And, and then it's, it's Red

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Cross and a hotel and that's it.
So, you know, we had numerous

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people with like, hey, stay in
this house that my family owns

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it.
No one lives in.

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Stay in our, you know, apartment
of our, of our garage.

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As long as you want.
Stay, we're in, we're going out

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of state.
Stay in my house forever as long

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as you want.
We there was not a shortage of

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people that were like here take,
you know, take this.

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We're giving this help, you
know, so, you know, not at not

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at one point that I feel like I
was in trouble and it didn't

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matter because, I mean, the
stuff was gone and I was like, I

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don't need.
Any of it.

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It does give you perspective,
Mick, like.

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You.
You think you you think you need

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it, you think you care about it
so much.

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But like, when it all goes away,
it's like, I don't know,

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something happens.
Like you just become more

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grateful for what you have.
And that's a gift.

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You know, I, I, we, we used to
say or like when I put together

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words or like how we felt like
we felt almost immediately that

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the fire gave us more than it
took.

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Wow, that that is a bold
statement.

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Say more.
Yeah, it's, it's because just

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that like burned up everything
you thought you cared about and

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then the only thing you really
had to care about was like the

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things that mattered most, your
conversations that you're having

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with God and the people that are
circling around you.

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And it's like, and, and, and to
be honest, that's that's stuff

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that really matters the most
anyways.

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I tell people I, I want you to
hear our stories that you can

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understand that you can have
that perspective without a fire.

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Like that is a choice, but you
don't need a fire to have to

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have that poison to make that
choice.

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And I don't really want that for
you or anyone else.

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But I'm just saying like I want
people to hear our story and say

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like, I can choose.
I can choose joy and I can

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choose light and I don't have to
focus on all of the things that

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if they were gone tomorrow, it
wouldn't really matter anyways.

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It wouldn't, you know, I will
tell you they'll make that fire.

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This is a little bit of a crazy
story too.

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I pulled up to her house.
I was like, I, it's a shock.

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Like it's like, Oh my God, my
house is on fire.

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So I called 911 and I'm still
driving up our driveway like,

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and they're like, the first
thing I ask you for is your

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address.
So I'm giving my address, which

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is sort of hard to remember when
you're panicked, by the way, you

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know, like, where's my address?
And then like, I'm like, my dogs

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are in there.
So I pull, I pull up and I get

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out of the car on the phone with
the operator and I don't.

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Turn I don't put my car in park.
So the car is like literally

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still rolling towards the
burning fire and I get because I

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want to go to the back and open
my door, try to get my dogs out

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and I turn around and my car is
rolling towards the house And I

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was like run back across the
yard.

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Get in the car because I'm like,
this car is going to hit run

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into my house on fire and put it
in reverse and I'm backing

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across the yard like where I
feel like it's safe.

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And then I jump out again, start
running across and I turn around

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and my car is rolling backwards.
So literally did put it in

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perfect rolling backwards.
I'm like, I can't, I cannot.

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I I'm going forward and then I'm
running and then I come back and

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then I'm going backwards and
then I'm running and then I come

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back.
I'm like still on the phone with

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911.
I mean, this whole thing, this

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whole charade is happening.
I finally get in to park and go

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around.
And by the time I get to the

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back door when I flung, flung it
open, I know you know how fast

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this happens because he deals
with it.

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But like, I don't know, like I'm
just a normal person, you and I

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don't know.
And I opened up the door.

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The smoke was so black.
It was like completely opaque

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from bottom to top.
I could not see anything past

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the door frame.
There was no nothing.

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You know, I call for my dogs and
they didn't come.

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And Nick, let's just say if you
see the pictures of our fire

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614, it's just my son's room 615
one minute later in the

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pictures, the entire house is on
fire in 60 seconds.

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So I'm just wondering, like, how
long do you think I did that

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dance with the car?
How long was it?

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Yeah, I mean.
Maybe a minute.

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A minute, yeah.
That's stuff.

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Yeah.
But like, what if I didn't do

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the dance, Mick?
What if I had gone?

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What if I had parked and run
around the back of the house and

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and gone in and that smoke
wasn't there yet and gone in the

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house looking for my dogs?
And then one minute later, that

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smoke it, You know what I'm
saying?

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Like, I just think about the
timing of that whole charade,

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like, because if there was no
smoke, I didn't know how fast

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fire was.
I would have gone in after my

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dogs, Right.
And I didn't do that.

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I mean, like, so there's just so
many pieces looking back is my

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is my story too long?
There's just so many pieces to

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our story that in my mind are
like completely flat out

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freaking miraculous.
Like it's just, it's amazing.

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So.
Because Casey, like Colin said,

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in the in the hierarchy of
things, you're much further up

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than the pets.
And So what you were talking

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about there, just so that
everybody is clear, is that if

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you'd been in the house perhaps
one minute earlier, you may not

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have come out alive.
That's right.

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And obviously we're grateful for
that.

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Thank you, me too.
Well, you are getting on a

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plane, and it sounds like you're
prompted to write a children's

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book.
Tell us a little bit more about

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what that prompting was like.
I mean, it wasn't audible.

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I didn't hear it out loud.
I just heard it in my heart.

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And I had been hearing about it
a little bit like, hey, you need

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to, you need to, but you know,
you, it's hard to slow down to

444
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760
do the things that sometimes God
asked you to do.

445
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,600
But it was very like, do it now
in my heart.

446
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,360
You're getting on this plane,
you're captive, you can't go

447
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,160
anywhere, you can't clean, you
can't do other things.

448
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,080
Like it is time, like now is the
time.

449
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,440
And it's almost amazing too,
that it would be on a plane

450
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:14,280
because like, that's so close to
heaven, you know, nice.

451
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,280
You just, I mean, like, and
yeah, just do it now.

452
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,680
And I didn't know I, I it's not
like I had an outline for it,

453
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,640
Mick.
It's not like I had sat down and

454
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,760
put up like lots of thought into
what I would say and how I would

455
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,200
say it.
There is no explanation for me

456
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,280
how what I wrote happened in two
hours and barely change it all

457
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,920
by the editor.
Like barely.

458
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,920
What you see in the story is
exactly what I wrote on the

459
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,960
plane, which is amazing to me.
So I don't know.

460
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,920
I just did it.
I just started writing whatever,

461
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,640
whatever came to my mind, which
I don't think really, like I

462
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960
said, I don't think it came from
me because I don't know.

463
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,840
It's just, it's exactly, it's
exactly what people need to

464
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,560
hear.
But I don't, I'm not saying I'm

465
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560
not capable in telling the story
in that way.

466
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,800
It just came from someone else.
That's all.

467
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,960
You know, I wrote down what he
told me to write down.

468
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480
Yeah.
Well, let's continue this a

469
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,760
little bit more because you'd
land and then it sounds like

470
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,000
there was not only access to the
Internet, but kind of

471
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,080
clarification for you in terms
of which scriptures you would be

472
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,000
plugging in.
So how did you land on that

473
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,920
scripture in Psalm at the end?
I don't know, I don't remember

474
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,560
what I searched up, to be
honest, because it's like when I

475
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,400
was going through the story and
writing the story, I was

476
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,440
thinking, I need a, I need a
scripture about fear here, you

477
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920
know, and I, I've been a
Christian a long time, but I

478
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,400
don't have like a ton of
scripture memorized, which I

479
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,480
should because I know that's
like how you fight the battle.

480
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,920
I should be better about that,
but I'm like, OK, like I know I

481
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,240
need a powerful scripture.
I know there's scriptures about

482
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,000
fear.
I know there's scriptures about

483
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,160
you know, about hope and about
how God never leaves you and

484
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,800
what God does with a broken
hearted.

485
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,480
I know there's scriptures about
that.

486
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720
I don't know what they say
exactly, but I know they exist.

487
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,520
So I'm going through and I'm
like making notes to myself of

488
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960
this book, like I need a
scripture about like what God

489
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,800
does with broken hearted here.
So when I landed, I'm like

490
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,240
searching up.
I'm like, what are the best

491
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,600
scriptures?
And then they would just be

492
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,200
like, you know, tend to choose
from and I was just reading

493
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,040
them.
I'm like this one, this one

494
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,400
speaks to exactly what I need
people to feel.

495
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,920
And so that's just what
happened.

496
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400
So I don't know what I searched
up or what I said.

497
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,200
I don't know what I said that
made me feel that I needed that

498
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,200
at the end of the book or what I
searched up, but it came up and

499
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560
that's the one I picked.
I, there's no doubt in my mind

500
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,840
it's because God wanted the
books to end that way.

501
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,240
You know, like you are not
fighting your own battles.

502
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,800
Tell people that you are not,
you know, they're not fighting

503
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,320
their own battles because it's,
it's just not yours to fight.

504
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,120
That's it, you know, So I think
it's a perfect scripture and I'm

505
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:58,200
glad that Matt came to
Thanksgiving and made everybody

506
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:04,440
chant it.
Yeah, it certainly adds to the

507
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,320
richness of the story and the
confirmation of things for you.

508
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080
So that's awesome.
Well, tell us all a little bit

509
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,320
about the book.
Thank you.

510
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,360
I took Above the Ashes and just
Summer, I was like, I need

511
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,680
somebody to illustrate this.
And I interviewed 30 people.

512
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960
I picked a woman from Hawaii.
Her name is Elsa Linski.

513
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,480
I needed it to be soft enough
that kids wouldn't be scared to

514
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720
read the book.
I wanted them to feel moved, not

515
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,520
scared.
And so she just did a beautiful

516
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,800
job.
Like this picture of heaven, my

517
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,400
dogs in heaven.
Like I, I just, it makes me so

518
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,520
happy.
And she did little things like

519
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,000
this dog Tush stole a rack of
ribs at a party once.

520
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,120
So there's like a little rack of
ribs right there.

521
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:54,920
And this dog Rosie stole a, a
pink cupcake from a, a baby

522
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,680
shower just like literally had
it all over her face.

523
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,560
She totally told on herself,
they're just like little things

524
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,920
in the book that she put in
there that just really make my

525
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,640
heart happy.
And then at the back of the

526
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,880
book, we put actual pictures of
our family so that when people

527
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,720
get through the story, like they
flip over and there's pictures

528
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,920
of us and there's pictures of
the sunflower.

529
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,040
And then in the very back, this
came out of our house.

530
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,360
Barely anything came out of our
house, but this came out of our

531
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,280
house completely.
These are ceramic hands that we

532
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,440
did together as a family and
they were in our bedroom and our

533
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,480
bedroom ceiling like caved in
and there were but like, things

534
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,200
were ruined.
But those were, you know,

535
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,240
ceramic cans we did.
And so anyways, just little

536
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,160
things in our story have come
together and the book is

537
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,520
fabulous.
I hope that it, you know, just

538
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,760
takes the fear away from kids
and adults.

539
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,840
So thanks for asking about it.
Yeah, absolutely.

540
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,360
Well, let's round things out
here with the questions that we

541
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,480
ask all of our guests and you
guys both will respond to these.

542
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,440
The first one is as it's
relating to the sunflowers,

543
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,240
existing first and foremost in
the spot that they existed in at

544
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,600
the time they existed in the
Psalms and so much more.

545
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,560
Was it coincidence?
We'll start with you, Colin.

546
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:19,000
Was it coincidence or God?
Kind of like I stated before,

547
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:27,040
something that grew from no
origin or no seed to them being

548
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,160
there and the not demolished and
it had a lot to do with her and

549
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,160
the family.
Then you know, it that just kind

550
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,080
of led me to this is faith.
You know, this is this is a

551
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,560
there's a reason for this.
So you know that just put your

552
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,040
trust in God at that point.
Yeah, right on.

553
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,680
Coincidence for God, you know
what my vote is, Meg?

554
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,120
I just there's like no doubt in
my mind those sunflowers like

555
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,880
those were from Jesus for our
family.

556
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,320
So it's 100%.
Yeah, we usually do have some

557
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,080
fun with this one in terms of we
got a pretty good idea of what

558
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,200
people are going to say, but we
ask it anyway.

559
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,400
Well, Colin, we'll start with
you here just in terms of final

560
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:15,280
question and give us a sense for
how your life has changed as a

561
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,880
result of all of what you guys
have described.

562
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Well, I worked on a house for
two years straight, which is

563
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,000
great.
So we're all done.

564
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,800
And, you know, we can refocus on
what's important, which is, you

565
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,320
know, family and children and
faith.

566
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Like, you know, I just picked up
AI, found a company, obviously

567
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,120
through advertising and
marketing called Spot the Spiral

568
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,040
Bible, and we opened it last
night and Charlie and I sat down

569
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,880
and it starts in, you know, New
Testament, Matthew and, and

570
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,560
we're just going through that
together.

571
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,480
I things of it, things have been
less of a storm.

572
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,640
And so I've been able to have a
little bit more purpose now.

573
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,160
So, you know, in case you now go
to church.

574
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,120
So we volunteer and now I can,
you know, start a study of my

575
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,160
own and put a little, put a
little bit more thought and

576
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,840
process into, you know, my faith
and learning more because I have

577
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,600
all, I have a lot of questions.
I, I always have questions.

578
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,280
So whether I'm able to get to,
you know, a, a, a brother in

579
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,760
church or a faith leader, you
know, like a pastor, you know, I

580
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,560
don't, it's not always options.
So I'd have to do my own, do my

581
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,640
own studies.
So it's now I'm provided more

582
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,640
time and focus for for my face.
And then like I was sitting here

583
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,240
asking Casey questions this
morning.

584
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,280
I went over coffee like, do you
know about this?

585
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Do you know that Harrah did
this?

586
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,560
And do you know that David and
is you know, King is is related

587
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,000
to Joseph in 14 generations And
she's like and I'm like spitting

588
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,600
all the so.
She's really excited about his

589
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,680
sweet Bible study, which is
great.

590
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,480
So it's fun, Yeah.
So, you know, for me, like I

591
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,080
have a lot of perspective to to
give to people, not only from

592
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,520
the fireside, but but I feel
like the faith side.

593
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,560
I've I've seen a lot of bad
things happen over even over the

594
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,760
last two years, whether it be
with us or or close friends

595
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,800
around us happen, just fall
apart life.

596
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,400
And I'm like, do you have a
path?

597
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,880
Is there is there a faithful or
moral path?

598
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,560
Like are you are you letting go?
Like, you know, a lot of times

599
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,760
they're not and, and it's, you
try not to pass judgement.

600
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,520
I feel like the biggest sin and
that I have is judgement.

601
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,080
And it's really, really hard for
me and I battle it every day.

602
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,800
But I, I try to give people an
option and I'm like, are you

603
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,800
even trying?
Are you listening?

604
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,960
You know, why aren't you
listening?

605
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,320
You know, and I just, I, I, I
put it out there.

606
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,560
I'm like, I'm here for you that,
you know, this is an option and

607
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,640
I try to lead people in the
right direction.

608
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280
So because it helped, it's
helped me dramatically.

609
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Yeah, awesome.
Well, Casey, how has life

610
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,080
changed for you?
I mean, it's testimony, Nick,

611
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,480
you know, when people ask you
why do you believe what you

612
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,200
believe?
It's, it can be easier to

613
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,240
describe what you believe when
you have something to point to,

614
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,200
to say like this happened.
You know, this happened to me

615
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,200
and there's no explanation for
it.

616
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,360
But, you know, I, I just, I
think the opportunity to have a

617
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,160
greater, bigger testimony when
people say, oh, like hit the

618
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
fire got you, but it didn't
really get you, you know, like

619
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,800
you guys rose above it.
And I just don't think that that

620
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,520
would have been possible if if
we just didn't, if we weren't

621
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:32,560
focused on what God had for us.
And, and so I think that it's

622
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,240
been, it's been a journey, it's
been an adventure, But I love

623
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,800
the story to tell.
I love telling with the

624
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,600
sunflowers.
I love telling with the

625
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,680
scripture.
I love this book.

626
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,480
I love just the opportunity for
us to have impact on others.

627
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,080
And I just don't.
It's not that we weren't doing

628
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:53,000
that before the fire, but the
fire gave us the attention that

629
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,200
allowed her in the attention
back to God.

630
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:04,480
And that's been really fun.
Yeah, it gave us the attention

631
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,800
that allowed us to turn the
attention back to God.

632
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,679
Tell us a little bit more about
that.

633
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:12,440
I don't want to leave that one
hanging out there.

634
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,560
I mean, because people say how,
I mean, first of all, the fire,

635
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,440
people want to know about it.
They want to know about the

636
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,000
experience.
They want to know about the

637
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,239
tragedy, the trauma.
What did it feel like to walk

638
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,719
through the house?
Like people are curious because

639
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040
it's extraordinary and it's
tragic.

640
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,560
You lost your animals.
How'd that make you feel like

641
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,000
your kids could have been home?
Like, are you scared every day

642
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,199
now?
Like they just ask all kinds of

643
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,679
questions and I mean, because
they're curious and that's how

644
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,920
humans are, you know?
So I just, I think the

645
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,280
opportunity for people to be
curious and ask us questions and

646
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,480
then hear our testimony and
realize that we are OK and that

647
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,240
God took care of us and that
we're not like we went through

648
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,040
tons of trials in the last year
just, you know, because that's

649
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,400
what the devil does.
You know, it's what doesn't

650
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,280
matter.
It doesn't like good, bad, good,

651
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,920
bad, good, bad, whatever God is
doing, like the devil is always

652
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,040
trying to get involved.
And so, you know, through those

653
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,560
experiences, people ask
questions and it gives us an

654
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,840
opportunity to say, yeah, this
happened and it sucked.

655
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,800
But like, this happened and it
was better.

656
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,920
And this happened too.
And it sucked and this happened

657
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,520
and it was better.
And I want that for people, you

658
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
know, because stuff that sucks
happens to everybody.

659
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,640
And, you know, I don't know, you
could just turn it back around

660
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,240
and be like, yeah, but this
happened.

661
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,560
It was better.
And it's because God had control

662
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920
over it and he had a better idea
than me.

663
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360
And this house that we live in
is extraordinary.

664
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,200
It's a better idea than we had.
It's way better than the house

665
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,640
we had before, you know, And I
just, I, I didn't know, like,

666
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,840
first of all, I, I just, it's a
gift.

667
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,840
It's a gift.
And it's an awesome opportunity

668
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,040
to be able to tell people about
those gifts when they are

669
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,200
curious and they ask questions
and hopefully they take those

670
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,920
seeds back into their own, you
know, lives.

671
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,160
And they say, like, if they
could do that, like there's

672
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,440
something different, I should be
doing something.

673
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,800
You know, how how can they do
that if they're not a Jesus not

674
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,480
into, you know, they don't
believe?

675
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,560
Like, what is different about
the way they handled that?

676
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:29,240
And why are they still so happy?
You know, why are they still

677
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,160
married?
I think some people would go

678
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,720
through that and be like, I hate
you.

679
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,320
I hate you.
Live in a camp where we're

680
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,280
getting divorced.
You know, like, seriously,

681
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,120
You're like, you're this is how
we live for 15 months.

682
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,800
Like, do you have to go to the
bathroom?

683
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,480
Sorry, there's a line.
Yeah.

684
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Shower, you know, I just, I
just, I just think it just gave

685
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,520
us an opportunity to talk to
people about how good God is

686
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,920
more than we had before because
they're curious and they ask

687
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,320
questions.
What a great summary.

688
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,800
Oh man, that's, that's really
good.

689
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,000
Thank you guys so much for
sharing.

690
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,120
All of this when you look is
powered by these first hand

691
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,720
accounts just like what you guys
have described.

692
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:21,600
So it's been an awesome time
chatting with you guys both

693
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,280
really, really appreciate you
guys being on the show.

694
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,320
Thank you.
Yeah, that's great.

695
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Appreciate you.
Well, there you have it.

696
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Was it coincidence or God?
You decide for yourself, but I

697
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believe you just heard a story
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