He Spoke a Curse at 13—It Almost Destroyed His Life | Pat Reilly | 042

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Hey everybody, it's Mick from
When You Look giving you a heads

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up that there's a parental
advisory on this particular

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episode.
There's great insight in it,

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lots of amazing conversation,
but not all of the topics are

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ones that you necessarily want
your younger kids listening to.

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I can remember playing this day
when I was 13.

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I was in the front yard looking
at the house and I said I'll

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never be a drunk, I'm going to
be a drug addict.

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Welcome to When You Look, where
ordinary people share their

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extraordinary experiences and
you get to decide, was it

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coincidence or God?
Pat, welcome to When You Look

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man.
So great to have you here.

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I was glad to be here, Mick.
I appreciate you allowing God to

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speak through you to ask me to
come here today.

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I've had prayer to prepare my
heart and my mind, and it's not

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about me.
It's about a life I lived and

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about how the Holy Spirit can
work through me to help.

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Other people.
Amen.

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Amen.
But we are pumped to hear all of

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that.
Before we jump into that,

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though, tell us a little bit
about yourself.

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Well I'm 68 years old.
I live in Mechanicsville, VA.

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I have my son who is 18, just
graduated high school living

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with me.
He has a full time job and he

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took two years of HVAC going to
school and he's doing great.

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God has really had favor on him.
I could not put out a checklist

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for a better son.
And my daughter, she's she's

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married, she has a grand.
I have a granddaughter who is

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the name Miranda.
She turns 3 years old next

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month.
Start school on Monday.

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They all go to church with me.
We all seek Jesus and you know

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life's not easy sometimes, but I
can be at peace.

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Awesome.
Well, Pat, we really are

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delighted to have you here.
You've got an amazing story that

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God has written through you, so
let's dive right in, give us a

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little bit of the back story and
walk us through things.

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When I was a kid, I was the last
of five kids.

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My daddy was a drunk.
My mother was a Christian.

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She worked all the time to pay
the bills.

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And I can remember playing this
day when I was 13, I was in the

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front yard looking at the house,
and I said I'll never be a

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drunk, I'm going to be a drug
addict.

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And from that point, smoking pot
regularly, cocaine occasionally,

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and doing any drug I could have
put my hand on.

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When I-17, I joined the Marine
Corps.

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I volunteered for it just to get
away from home because at home

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is my daddy used to be a cop and
he stopped being a cop because

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he was a drunk and the cops
hated him because he was just

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hateful and he knew too much
harm.

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I would be out on the streets,
walk in two or 3:00 in the

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morning at a young age and just
get out of the house.

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And the cops would try to find
anything they could get me in

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trouble.
And I was a good kid and I just

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got tired of being accused of
doing this and doing that.

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And I said, well, I might as
well just do it.

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So lying, cheating feeling just
became a way of life.

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It was just normal. 18 My
brother and his wife kept asking

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me to go to church, go to
church, go to church.

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So I would go with them one day.
This I didn't know at that time

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what, but I kind of found out it
was the Holy Spirit was drawing

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me to Jesus.
So I asked Christ into my heart.

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It was instant transformation.
I did did everything I could to

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be like Christ has to live for
Jesus.

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I would bring kids to my house
and teach them the gospel

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because I had my own place in
and then take them out on

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Saturdays to win souls.
And then I became part of a jail

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ministry and the people I go see
in jail were my friends and I

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would give them a little lesson
and and one of my friends named

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G, he has Christ into his heart.
And the next week I come back

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and he said, well, I don't feel
no different.

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I said, well, that's, that's not
about feelings.

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It's about what you know, two
weeks later he was dead.

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So you never know what could
happen when you witness the

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people.
Just a simple 1015 minute

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conversation.
And he changed his life by

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asking Christ into his heart.
Yeah, but as a young Christian

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and then being on fire, I burned
the candle at both ends and it

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burned out.
There was nobody there to

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disciple me.
I had nobody to help leave me or

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guide me.
You know, just going to church.

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There's a small church and
there's like nobody grabbed me

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by the hand and said, hey, let
me help you.

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So I resorted back to my old
ways, started drinking and then

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started using cocaine, heavenly.
And crack cocaine is what the

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word curse allow that to take
over my life.

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Lost a house, a brick home.
I lost the two cars, I lost a

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wife.
I lost it all.

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I became a nobody but nothing.
I mean I will work just a little

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here there normally getting laid
off a fire because of drugs at

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night coming to work.
It was nothing I wouldn't do to

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get drugs for 13 years.
I was a hardcore crackhead.

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That means I didn't go to bed
until the dope ran out.

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I didn't wake up till I think of
a way I could lie, cheater,

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steal to get more dope. 13 years
is a long time.

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You know when you hit bottom,
people say they ain't one way to

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go, but you know, and there's
two ways you can go horizontal

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and you can stay there a long
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There was a lot of people
praying for me.

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My brother, he, him and his wife
too were devout Christians and

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missionaries and they always
prayed for me.

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When I got arrested one time, he
said, well this is hard love.

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All I needed was somebody to
sign to Get Me Out and he

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wouldn't even come sign.
I get tired of being tired, but

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I didn't stop using drugs, kept
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At some point I moved away.
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Suffolk was where I was raised
in Norfolk for the drug capital.

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So I moved away from there and
moved to Ashland to get away

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from drugs.
And so I was drinking some to

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compensate for not having drugs
or doing drugs as an

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alternative.
I never learned to have emotions

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and feelings.
I would just medicate all the

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time and not experience eyes or
loads of life.

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I just assumed drugs consumed
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I was staying with my nephew for
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He lived on Shady Grove Rd.
We've got drinking and I wrote

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by MCC.
I didn't know what MCC was,

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didn't have a clue, but God
spoke to my heart when we rode

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by.
He said if you go in here, your

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life will change. 1998 it
started going to MCC and little

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by little my life was changed
and I got through Henry and

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Cindy Smith in a prayer group
and had a prayer session and

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renouncing and deannouncing all
the demons that I had given life

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to inside of me.
I would say I was a Christian

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the whole time, but when you
open doors for the enemy, he

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comes in, you give him foothold,
then he gives you a stronghold

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and he can't break it on your
own.

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I mean, it's possible with God,
but I couldn't.

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I knew at MCC, once I went
there, there was a lot of love

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here, lot of love.
And praise God, I was delivered

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for my addiction.
I was and Michael say that a few

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times after that that I would
medicate, but the bondage was

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gone.
The bondage was gone and I had

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another girl and at first we
were having sex and I told her.

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I said well, if we're going to
get married, we need to do it

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right.
So we just need to go to church

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together, stop having sex,
getting married and and we get

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married in 1999.
In 2000 my daughter Heather was

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born and God had favor on me
because of my drug addictions.

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A lot of companies would not
work me.

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I had one company called
Atlantic Constructors, it had

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fired me for stealing the guys
watch but told me I'd never

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worked for him again.
And God opened that door for a

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four day job.
And because of the

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transformation Jesus Christ had
made in my life, they kept me

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on.
And then two years later, God

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had opened the door that the guy
that hired me was working for

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me.
Jesus just had favor of me time

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and time and time again.
I was working through the union

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hall.
He took me right on up.

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And but then two years I was a
supervisor for the company.

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I mean, I ran jobs sometimes two
men, sometimes 50 men, sometimes

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100 men.
But God had given me the wisdom

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and the favor to do that. 2007,
my son was born.

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We had seen ATV on for sale on
on TVI saw ATV a house for sale

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and I told my wife, I said we'll
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And she went buying the did all
the paperwork and because I was

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a veteran, I could get Ava loan
not hadn't even seen the house

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till we got ready to move in.
And the kids in the neighborhood

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there, it's just a little small
community, but they all live

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close and they would come to our
house to spend time with our

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daughter because they didn't
have nobody in their lives that

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would care about them.
So the first thing they would

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want would be food, something to
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So we had a, we put a pool in
the backyard and I build a sign

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up so as if you get in the pool,
you got to go to church on

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Sunday.
And I got some of them going to

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church.
It you didn't see no

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transformation in them right
then, but it was sowing the

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seeds.
Yeah, just like I sowed that

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seed that I would be a drug
addict and it sprouted and grew.

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I was sowing seeds in those kids
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I've been active at
Mechanicsville Christian Center.

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I have led Sunday school
classes.

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I've LED small group.
Right now I'm leading the men's

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group because I know what it's
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Did not have nobody beside you
or nobody to encourage you,

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nobody to try to pull you into a
deeper, more intimate, personal

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relationship with Christ.
So I'm trying to allow the

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Spirit.
It's not me, it's just being a

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channel.
It was the Holy Spirit could

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float to speak to men, to have
them have a desire to want to

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grow in a more intimate personal
relationship with Christ. 2013

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my the mother of the children,
my wife at that time, she just

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one Sunday after church left, it
was gone 8 hours, which was

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really unusual.
The next morning I was going to

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go do some little side work and
she called and says I'm gone.

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You come take the kids, they
want to stay with you.

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I said well let's go get
counseling.

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She said I don't know counseling
I don't want nothing it's over.

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So I had wow, 13 year old
daughter and a six year old son

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to be a mom and a dad too.
And the consequences of the

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divorce is it was heartbreaking.
It was heartbreaking.

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It gives the enemy places to
attack you.

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It's not easy because my
daughter who was supposed to be

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going to home school so I was
going to home school her for the

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8th grade going to find out she
didn't know nothing and I said

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well read books from last year.
She says I don't know.

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So I searched around the house
and for three years home school

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books and never been open.
I had bought them same grades on

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report cards and I came to find
out that the kids mother was

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doing all the school work for
her and she had put all.

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I don't blame her for nothing.
She had put all her love on on

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Paul and my son and just left
Heather on the sidelines and I

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worked all the time just to
supply for the family.

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I thought everything was going
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I didn't never knew we had a
role.

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We didn't fuss and fight, no
arguments, it just blindsided me

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and when she left I tried to
home school the other and she

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was so far behind with nothing I
could do.

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Put her in public school and
right there she went downhill.

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He got out, she became
backslidden and cause the kids

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at school.
People pull you down there so

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then one person can pull them
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She ran away full five times.
And she said she wanted to live

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with her mother.
And the only reason she did that

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because her mother and her
control, we let her do what she

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wanted.
So we ended up my son and I, The

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house is too much for it. him
and I so sold the house.

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And then I went to apartment
downtown Richmond for a while

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just to figure out which we're
going to do.

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Yeah, we ended up buying a house
in Mechanicsville, staying real

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active in the church.
I've always told him to, you

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know, read devotions and Christ
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that into his lifestyle.
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And it's it's really the Holy
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intimate personal relationship
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Praise God.
I mean, at you know, at 18, you

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just graduated high school in
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But that's his dedication.
That's the Christ.

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That's when you sow the right
seeds, you get the right plants

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and you take the seeds that were
suddenly that were bad and you

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get where you kill the word of
God and you clean, clean that

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up.
Amazing what God can do.

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Yeah, a couple years ago it was
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I found out I got stage 4 kidney
failure, which is a byproduct of

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having high blood pressure and
diabetes.

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Stage 4 kidney failure means you
you've got less than 30%

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function of your kidneys and
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I tried the medications, but it
seems like the consequences of

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medications was worse.
Feelings reactions in my body

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was worse than the complications
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So I've given up on taking
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in the hands of God.
You know, it's about a

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relationship with Jesus Christ.
It's about trust, it's about

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faith.
The Word of God says without

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faith it's impossible to please
God.

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You know, I had a talk with Matt
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Then he said, hey, God can take
you when you're healed or God

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can take you when you're sick.
But you know, I'm at peace

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because I prepared my son and my
daughter.

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It's time to go.
It's time to go.

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Don't matter what I'm doing or
where I'm at.

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I could live for years.
I could go away tomorrow the

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minute I could not finish this
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But there's faith and trust in
Jesus and and prayer.

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You know, the consequences and
from my kidney disease, I

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noticed when I have people lay
hands on me and pray for me, I

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don't don't have it.
I don't feel don't sense.

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Don't let people say, well, you
look, you not say, well, what's

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going on?
It's inside my body.

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It's not on the outside.
And when I, you know, the Word

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of God says we wrestle not
against flesh and blood, but

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against rulers, powers, and
authorities of a dark spiritual

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world.
And when I pray against Satan

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and his demons, because the Word
of God says we have authority

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over the power of the enemy, I
exercise that authority.

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I tell my body, no, you're not
sick.

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No, I can do all things through
Christ.

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I can get up.
I can do this.

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I got a choice.
I could lay around and complain

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and moan and groan about how I
feel like blah blah blah, but I

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choose to have faith and walk in
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I start every day with prayer.
I pray for people part of the

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boiler room at church, praying
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I got staff because the staff at
the church, they're human, just

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like you and me.
They need people praying for

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them.
We as I communicate with men, I

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find out there's a lot of people
just don't read the word every

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day.
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I mean, it's late.
You call.

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You need to ask for your call.
We need the word of God in our

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hearts to be effective for the
advancement of the Kingdom of

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God.
Humor.

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And that's what I want to do.
I want to advance the Kingdom of

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God.
I want his will to be done.

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And right now I'm done that God
Jesus made to teach a group of

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men and they're going been going
over prayer, then going over

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what it means to be totally
surrendered to Jesus Christ,

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then going over what it means to
be equally yoked with Christ.

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It doesn't mean everything's
going to go well, doesn't mean

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you won't have problems.
But what it does mean is that

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Jesus is right there with you.
He promised he would never leave

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you.
He promised he would never leave

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me.
He would never forsake me.

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So no matter how bad things get,
I know he's here because I read

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his promises.
I stand on his promises if I

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need you.
There's people in love in the

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church.
All you got to do is contact

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somebody.
A byproduct of that pool sign,

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just last Saturday night, one of
the kids who's gotten married

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came to church.
Some seeds take a while to grow.

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Yeah.
And sometimes all the time.

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We can't love people the way
they are.

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We can't have an expectation of
I don't like this what they do

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or I don't like that.
And.

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And God, God had teach me what
love was.

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I didn't know what love was
because my Mama worked all the

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time and she didn't have time to
love me.

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And my daddy was abusive.
And, you know, my first

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girlfriend's dad, he got me
drunk and raped me.

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It's you don't know what love
is.

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You don't know it.
I didn't do it in my head, but I

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didn't know it in my heart.
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So, you know, just be honest
with my son-in-law, God.

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I didn't like things he was
doing or didn't do.

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But God told me it's, it's not
about me trying to correct him.

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It's about me talking to God and
praying through the Holy Spirit

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to work in his heart and love.
That's when God was really

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teaching me what love was.
Sat on the sideline.

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Pray, ask God to work through
the power of His Holy Spirit,

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through people that I love and
care about, and then sit back

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and watch him.
Watch him do it.

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That grows your faith.
That helps you understand the

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power of the Holy Spirit.
That's why I pray so much

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because I know God hears my
prayers where the guy says the

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fervent prayer prayer have a
righteous man avails much.

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I'm righteous through Jesus, not
through what I do.

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When Jesus was on the cross, he
said is finished.

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I didn't understand what that
meant, but I'm coming to

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understand it.
Everything that I need from

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Christ is already bought and
paid for as to whether or not I

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want to walk in it and allow it
to control me.

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I can't be in charge of what I
want.

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And that's part of total
surrender saying, OK, God, you

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take this.
I I can't do it or God, what do

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you want me to do in this
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Holy Spirit, I need you.
God promised me.

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He promised you.
If we need wisdom, ask and he'll

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get us.
That's the lifestyle I try to

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Live Today.
I try to show the love of Jesus

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to people I don't even know.
Yeah, that was he came to

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church.
You know what?

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God's got a plan for them.
You know, when you come and hear

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the word, faith comes by
hearing, hearing by the word of

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God.
When you hear the word of God,

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it's going to make a
transformation in your life.

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You can still say no, but God's
going to be drawing you.

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I have a few people a Sunday in
Bible verse 2 and I have for a

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while and a little footnote with
it because I understand that's

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probably the only encouragement
some people will get.

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And hard to say, but some of
them say that's the only Bible

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they read, you know, is that I
pray in the morning.

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My gosh, what do you want me to
send today?

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How can I encourage other people
today?

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You know, and I think sometimes,
why do I even do this?

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It's not doing no good.
Then when somebody's in pain or

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somebody's hurting, they'll
contact me and they ask, hey,

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can you pray for me?
Or they ask, so you know, what

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should I do?
There's been a lot of people who

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were under the bondage of drugs
that I've helped through the

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power of the Holy Spirit working
in me and through me and just

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sharing a life story.
You know, if if you've never

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been addicted to drugs, you
don't know when 13 years of my

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life were wasted doing drugs.
Every day it makes an impact.

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But God turned it around.
God said all things work

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together for the good to those
who love God who are called

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according to his purpose.
And he called us, He chose us.

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He has a plan, He has purpose
for us.

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And I think I wasted a lot of
years on drugs and the mental

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aspect of us humans what I did.
But it was God's preparation who

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allowing me to choose my ways
instead of His ways so I could

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influence people who where I was
now.

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And it's all about Jesus right
now.

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It's all about Jesus.
It's all about Christ.

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To see my daughter telling me
that she, you know, when her

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daughter goes to school, she
says I get to spend more time

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reading the Bible.
I get to spend more time with

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Jesus.
It's paid off.

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Yeah.
Praise God, see the fruits.

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God, if I wouldn't have planted
the seeds, there wouldn't be no

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fruit.
But the fruit is growing.

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It takes time, takes water,
takes time in prayer.

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Pat, thanks for sharing.
Yeah.

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Easy life now, but when you get
on the other side of the bad

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seeds, the bad choices, I got
peace.

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I got peace in my heart.
You know when a total surrender,

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something you got to work at
everyday when I'm walking in

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total surrenders, there's
complete peace no matter what

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happens.
I'm living on retirement and

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Social Security.
I'm blessed.

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You know it ain't much money but
and my son told me, he says well

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we we would have some money if
you wouldn't give it all away.

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It's probably money has no value
to me.

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It's a necessity of life.
But when I see somebody hurting

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or in need and if I can help, I
will.

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Yeah.
It's so Incedes got into other

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people's lives.
Sometimes this word sometimes is

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with my hands.
I mean, God just give me too

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much talent to waste the
abilities I have in construction

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and things of nature.
There's no sense of having it if

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you ain't going to use it.
God's blessed me and more.

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When I'm at church, people ask
me, how you doing?

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So I'm just blessed to be here.
Yeah, I'm blessed to be there.

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Better than being held up in
some crack house without a

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dollar in my name looking who am
I going to rob next?

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Steal over next.
Jesus loves me and he's loved me

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every step of my life.
He's never turned his back on

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me.
He never left me even when I was

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at my worst, he was right there
with me carrying me on protect.

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It's been more than one time
when I was drugs it.

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I've had a gun put in my face
and the question that would come

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to my mind is this how I'm going
to die?

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It's just even as a child, when
I was my daddy was drunk, he

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would chewed at us.
It's just stupid.

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You know, it's you tell people
that and people I'm thinking you

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know you, you don't understand
if you never lived that

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lifestyle or been put in those
circumstances and how you going

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to stay on love when your daddy
gets drunk and beat the hell out

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of you or either pulls a gun out
and they want to shoot towards

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you.
So God's hand, the protection

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has been on for my life.
God has a plan for us.

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As long as I'm breathing, He's
got a purpose for me.

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And it's not to sit around the
house and cry because I got this

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disease or that disease.
It's because He wants me to get

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up and try to do what I can to
advance His Kingdom.

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And it's just podcast in any
way, shape or form can speak to

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somebody's heart.
And I'm grateful to be here to

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allow the Holy Spirit to speak
through me.

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I was in plan what I was going
to say.

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I just told God here I am used
to be.

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And I'm grateful that he put it
on your heart to contact me to

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share.
Yeah, Pat.

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Thank you so much for sharing
all that.

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There's so much there, man, so
much there.

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And I really appreciate how you
were transparent about the curse

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that you spoke over yourself.
Yeah.

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And how over time, with power,
God's word, and deliverance

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through prayer, that was able to
be undone.

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That's great.
Praise God for that.

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It's a good thing.
Renounce in me.

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You know, the Word of God says
we have authority over the power

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of the enemy.
What's the use of heaven that

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authority, if we don't exercise
it?

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And too many people, they don't
realize the authority we have in

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Christ.
Christ has given us authority.

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All our spiritual blessings are
in heavenly places.

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We're seated with Christ in
heavenly places.

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He just wants us for
relationship and prayers.

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Nothing that's got to be Tata.
Tata is just talk to him like

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he's my daddy, have a father, He
is my father.

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Took a long time to grasp that.
Well, praise God that He's shown

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you His love and that you now
live in it and you're you're

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letting that flow through you to
others.

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That's right.
That's right.

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Truling.
That's the best gift to have,

456
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you know, Good.
Best.

457
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Yeah.
Well, there's there's two

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questions that we asked Pat to
round these conversations out

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and the first of which is, was
it coincidence or God?

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And what we're really talking
about there is there's so many

461
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different things in your life,
man.

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So were those coincidental or
was that God?

463
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Yeah, it's definitely all God.
It's no coincidence that I had a

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gun on my face more than once a
day, been shot at the drug

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neighborhoods and and never got
hurt or beat up.

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It's all God, it's all God.
It's too many.

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You know, when you pray with
somebody for the first time and

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they ask Christ to do their
heart and even they can sense

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the power of the Holy Spirit.
And when I can feel it, the

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power of the Holy Spirit right
there.

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And I had to get one time at
work.

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He, he was having trouble
drinking and he, I got him in

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00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200
the truck with me and he thought
I was going to fire him.

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And I prayed with him and he
asked Christ to do his heart in

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the truck.
And he says, what is that?

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What do I feel?
I said, that's hard.

477
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I said, that's the power.
God, you don't forget things

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00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,400
like that.
He's never forgot that he, you

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know, thinking he's going to get
fired.

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And then he's invited into God's
Kingdom and feels the power.

481
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,760
God feels the power of God.
So God and I give him the glory

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for everything in my life,
everything, the good and the

483
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man, because that's what brought
me to where I'm at.

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00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Praise God.
Yeah.

485
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Pat, final question for you,
man.

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How has your life changed from
all of this that you've

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described?
It's without a doubt the things

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00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,120
of this world are not worth it.
It's I don't worry about having

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00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,080
this and that.
I mean, so many people want

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00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,320
stuff.
Stuff interferes with total

491
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,320
surrender to Christ.
It's OK to have it, but when you

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00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,840
pursue it and want it more than
Christ, my main gold is a more

493
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,640
deeper, intimate, personal
relationship with Jesus Christ.

494
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I must have been eternity with
him.

495
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
I want to get to know him a
little bit better while we are.

496
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,160
Yeah, you got to make your
priorities for him a

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00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,320
relationship with Christ.
What are you going to do when

498
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,560
you take your last breath?
All your stuff, all the things

499
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160
in this world are going to be
gone.

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00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Only thing that's going to last
is what you done for Christ.

501
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,720
What's it Sam?
I got a plaque on the walls

502
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:52,480
given to me through my great
grandmother when she passed

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00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,000
away.
Only one life will soon be

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00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,280
passed.
Only what's done for Christ will

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00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,640
last.
So much truth in that this so

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00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,480
much truth.
I just want to encourage you for

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to serve the good seeds.
Think about the words that are

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00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,200
coming out of your mouth.
Am I speaking life or am I

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00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,960
speaking death?
Cursings or blessings?

510
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,120
Speak blessings.
Be conscientious of what you

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00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,720
speak.
It's no fun eating bad words.

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00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:35,560
Yeah.
Well, Pat, genuine thanks man.

513
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,600
I'm really glad to have had you
on.

514
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:44,400
So grateful for you sharing and
all of the the trauma, the

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00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,440
heartache and the redemption
through King Jesus.

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00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Man thank you.
Been a real pleasure.

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00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,160
It's blessed.
Appreciate it.

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Was it coincidence or God?
You decide for yourself, but I

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believe you just heard a story
for His glory.

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