Our Greatest Loss Led to Salvation & Blessings | Mick Wienholt | 044

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This is the story of the death
of our son Luke, how that

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brought us in a relationship
with Jesus Christ and all the

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blessings that have flown from
that since.

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Ready.
Let's go.

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Welcome to When you Look where
ordinary people share their

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extraordinary experiences and
you get to decide was it

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coincidence or God?
So as I've discussed.

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In other episodes, I grew up in
a quote UN quote Christian

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household, and by that I mean
that there was regular

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discussion about God, regular
discussion about Jesus, and we

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regularly went to church.
But I noticed that there was

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some degree of disconnect
between the behaviors that I saw

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in my parents and the things
that I heard about God.

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And so I also didn't have any
real relationship with God.

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And despite going through
Christian based education from

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first grade through 12th grade,
I knew a lot about God in an

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intellectual sense.
I could describe the parts of

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the Trinity, and I certainly
knew some pieces of Scripture,

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but I for sure did not have an
actual relationship with Jesus

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Christ.
I didn't have a relationship

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with God the Father, and there
was really no communication

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between me and the Holy Spirit
because I wanted nothing to do

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with Him.
So it's not an ignorance and a

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passivity.
I was actually actively

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rebelling against God.
I had no interest in being in

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relationship with Him, so I
moved to Colorado after being

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from Maryland originally in a
rebellious phase against my

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folks and a stretching of my
wings.

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And for those of you that have
listened to episode 34 which

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released on November 7th of
2025, you know the disaster that

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my ego and rebellion created
wherein I nearly died in an

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avalanche on November 7th, 2000.
In that episode 33, which you

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should absolutely check out, I
describe how I did not give God

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any credit for what had happened
beyond just this intellectual.

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It was a miracle and I'm
certainly not proud of that.

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I'm just simply saying that's
where I was an ego fueled 19

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year old back then and in this
story, and we're going to Fast

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forward another dozen years or
so to a guy whose ego fueled.

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I'm now drinking Red Bull
instead of Mountain Dew because

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I make a few more bucks and I'm
in a scenario where we're kind

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of planning our life out.
So my wife and I got married in

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2006.
We were intentional about being

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married without children.
And now we come to 2011 and we

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decide it's time to start a
family.

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I'm very specific about the
language here because it was us.

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We decided to start a family.
There wasn't any type of

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prompting from the Holy Spirit
because we didn't have a

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relationship with him.
And in the handful of years that

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preceded this decision, my wife
had suggested that we go to

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church.
And I told her flat out no.

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We're.
Good God's.

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Good, we don't need church.
So.

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We decide, as mentioned that
it's now time for us to start a

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family.
And when we made that decision,

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we got pregnant almost
immediately.

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And we know many folks that have
challenges with getting

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pregnant.
We knew them at the time as

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well.
And so for us, we, we saw this

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as a quote UN quote blessing.
We would have never used that

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term at the time, which is why
I'm calling it a quote UN quote

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blessing, because we didn't have
relationship with God at that

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point.
We didn't see that that was

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coming from him.
We were grateful in a broad and

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generic sense that we got
blessed with pregnancy right out

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of the gates.
But we, of course, had no idea

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that that was going to happen.
So we're pregnant in the middle

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parts of 2011.
I would go to the obstetrics

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appointments in the first
trimester.

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And then because I was doing my
best to climb the corporate

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ladder, I only went to the
latter ones at the end of the

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third trimester.
And it's at the last OB

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obstetrician appointment that I
had a conversation with the OB

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and I said to her, hey, is there
anything that we should be

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thinking about?
It seems like, you know,

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everything's kind of.
Good, but.

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Just checking in with you,
You're the expert.

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I'm not.
And I distinctly remember her

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response because she said no,
you guys are all good.

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Your wife should be on the cover
of Fit Pregnancy magazine.

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And I remember that distinctly
because it was a stroke to my

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ego.
See, it implied that my wife was

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attractive enough, fit enough,
healthy enough to be on the

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cover of a magazine first and
foremost.

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And then it also implies that
everything is good to go with

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the baby and your baby is
healthy.

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So we.
Are at this point with it being

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the last OB appointment, we are
now well within 30 days of our

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due date and the due date was
January 11th, 2012.

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And within a handful of days
from that OB appointment, my

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guess is probably tenish or so
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I come back from walking the
dogs early in the morning and

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find my wife standing in our
kitchen crying and I said to her

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hey honey what's up?
And her response was, I haven't

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felt him move since last night.
So we immediately went to labor

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and delivery at the hospital
that we were scheduled to

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deliver at.
And they had us in this somewhat

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small side room where they
brought in an ultrasound machine

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and ultrasound tech.
And that tech couldn't find a

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heartbeat.
So another tech and another

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machine can't find a heartbeat.
Third machine and now A medical

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doctor comes in, he does his
work, and he then says, what?

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At that point we really could
all see coming.

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It was at that point that we
really knew what he said, which

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was, I'm sorry to tell you this,
but your baby no longer has a

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heartbeat.
So we are exactly one week away

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from Luke's due date, which was
January 11th of 2012.

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This is January 4th of 2012 and
we find out that it's 39 weeks

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gestational when it's go time
that he has died in my wife's

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belly.
We are naturally overwhelmed by

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the grief.
We're in this room, we're

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beginning to process, we're
crying, we're hugging each

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other.
Our life has literally been

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turned upside down in this
instant.

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And after a couple of moments in
this relatively small room, my

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wife says I need to go to the
bathroom.

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So I say to her, OK, I'll help
you get to the bathroom.

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And we walk out of this somewhat
small side room with the

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ultrasound machines and all of
that stuff, a couple of steps

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down the hallway.
And I help her into one of those

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bathrooms that we've all been to
or seen in a hospital where it's

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one toilet in this giant room
and it's got this massive door.

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So she goes in, she's going to
the bathroom, I close the door,

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I'm in the hallway and I am
physically overwhelmed, kind of

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pressed down and crushed by the
grief, the emotional grief that

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we're experiencing at that
point.

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It is that overwhelming and that
physical pressing down that

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literally puts me on my knees.
So I am now on my knees in the

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hallway and my face is now 6
inches from the floor.

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And it was in that moment that I
cried out to God and entered

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into relationship with Him.
Now, up to this point in my life

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as a 31 year old, I had been
able to essentially with grit,

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determination, maybe a little
bit of time, maybe a little bit

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of learning or teaching from
someone, maybe a little bit of

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money.
I had been able to overcome

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virtually every challenge that I
had experienced.

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I was handy so I could fix stuff
around the house, I could fix

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stuff around the on the car, I
could fix things at work.

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You know what I mean?
And I was successful in that

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way.
I could do a lot and accomplish

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a lot.
And I'm saying this because what

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I realized in that room with the
ultrasound tax and what came

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incredibly clear to me as I'm on
my knees in the hallway of the

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hospital, is that I couldn't fix
this.

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This was beyond me.
And because of my Christian

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upbringing, of which I was very
clear, I wanted basically

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nothing to do with.
I knew enough from the seeds

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that had been planted that when
I came to the end of myself, I

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cried out to God and I asked for
Him to help.

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And so it was in this moment of
total and complete desperation

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that life was beyond my control,
that I cried out to Him and

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entered into relationship with
Jesus Christ, who I can gladly

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say now is my Lord.
He's my Savior, and I am blessed

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with eternal life because of His
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So my wife and I are truly
overwhelmed with this grief.

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By God's grace and by God's
grace alone, my wife follows

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suit and enters into
relationship with Jesus also.

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And then the relationship began
to form deep in the middle of

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the night, because we were
regularly awakened at 1:00 in

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the morning, 3:00 in the
morning, 4:00 in the morning

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from the grief.
We're not tired physically, but

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we were awakened by the grief.
And so we would hold hands or

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hug and lay there and literally
dump our hearts out to God.

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We talked about all of the
emotions that we were feeling.

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We would ask him things like,
why did this happen?

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And we did it in a way that for
whatever reason, I truly just

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attribute this to his grace that
we weren't, we weren't

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questioning him in a shaking of
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It was more just a curiosity of
why did this happen?

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And over the months of pouring
our heart out to Him, He

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continued to love on us.
He continued to heal us.

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And He showed me in particular
that while what I thought was a

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Luke shaped hole in our hearts
was actually a God shaped hole

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in our hearts.
So.

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Shortly after we were able to be
intimate again.

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Once we got the green light from
the OBGYN, we got pregnant.

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And so now we got to make these
phone calls to our closest

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friends and family and ask them
to pray for this baby.

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And that was somewhat
unexpected, but I was really

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intent on us getting pregnant
again because my motive was to

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replace Luke.
I'm in fix it mode because

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that's what I had done my entire
life.

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And it was not many weeks after
that that we miscarried that

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baby.
And we're incredibly sensitive

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to the families that have had
miscarriages and the trauma that

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is associated with all of that,
the heartache and the pain.

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For us, this baby was so very
early on, and we were still so

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completely immersed in the grief
associated with Luke's death

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that that baby's miscarriage
just was rolled right into that

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grief sandwich.
Now let's go back to the fourth.

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We're in the room and we find
out, of course, that Luke has

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passed away and the next steps
are for my wife to be induced.

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And so we start that process and
it takes many hours for all of

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that to work its way through and
for her to go into active labor.

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And so it is the following day,
January 5th of 2012, when my

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wife delivers a 6 LB, eight
ounce, 21 inch long dead baby,

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which is the result of our first
pregnancy.

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Just absolutely heartbreaking.
Absolutely heartbreaking, but

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God was with us the whole time
and he had been with us earlier

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points in our lives and I
mentioned episode 33 of where he

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saves me miraculously in an
avalanche and that was at a

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period in life where I
absolutely hated him.

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Wasn't that I was passive and
didn't want anything to do with

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him.
No, I actively didn't want

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anything to do with him.
And he loved me then and he

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loved us back then even though
we didn't even know each other.

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And now here he is continuing to
show up in this deep pain.

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And while our plan was to get
pregnant and start a family, he

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had different plans for us and
needed to bring us into

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relationship with him.
So the grief lasted very heavy

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for 6:00 or so months.
And during that period of time,

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we went to a program at the
church that had hosted the

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memorial service for Luke.
We went to this program called

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Griefshare.
And Griefshare was incredibly

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helpful for us to grieve Luke.
And because we began to attend

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that same church, we got
immersed into praise and worship

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music because the church had an
amazing worship team.

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We got the word preached to us
and we got into community with

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folks that through Grief Share,
we realized had gone through

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incredibly challenging grief and
death situations just like we

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had.
And they were still there.

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They were able to be on the
other side of their grief and

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never moving on, but moving
forward with all of the grief

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that had happened in their life
and the death of their loved

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one, loved ones.
And so it was just tremendous

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healing for us.
And in the process of me trying

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to replace Luke and the
miscarriage, God showed us very

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clearly that we did not have a
Luke shaped hole in our heart,

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but instead we had a God shaped
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And he filled that hole and He
loved us through all of the

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grief, and he literally has
changed our lives forever.

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And what I mean by that is, is
that because now we accept

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Christ as our Savior, we have
eternal life.

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And we didn't have that before
that gift was sitting there, but

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we had never asked to receive
it.

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And so we hadn't.
And so we didn't have eternal

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life prior to Luke's death.
So the trajectory of my life and

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that of my wife's life is
entirely different for eternity

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because God made the decision to
put us on our knees and to bring

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us in relationship with Him
through the death of our Son. 9.

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Months or so after Luke's death,
we get pregnant again and nine

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months after that our first
living child, our daughter, is

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born in July of 2013.
On the whole, this pregnancy was

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successful and healthy, but
right towards the end there was

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low amniotic fluid and so our
daughter had to be induced.

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So we have the fetal demise with
Luke, that's the technical term

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for it.
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the pregnancy with our daughter
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And so my wife and I are in a
position of massive gratitude

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where we are so thankful to have
a living child and we figured

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we're probably not having any
more kids and we were really OK

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with that, so.
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Oscillated between probably 70%
never trying for any more kids

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to 90% never trying for any more
kids.

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But we were never at that 100%
mark of we're never going to try

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for any more kids.
And our daughter was roughly

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four, 4 1/2 years old.
And we began to individually get

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these little pushes, these
little nudges from the Holy

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Spirit.
And we can say that they're from

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the Holy Spirit because now
we're in relationship with him.

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We're paying attention, we're
spending time in Scripture and

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spending time at church and
spending time praying, and we

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have an actual relationship with
God and with Jesus.

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So we get these little nudges
individually and eventually come

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together and begin to start
chatting about maybe having

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another baby.
And again, this was something

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that we were definitely not gung
ho about and we were not hoping

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that over time this happened.
We were just simply over the

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moon, even 4 plus years in that
we have a wonderful living

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child, but we felt as if it was
the Holy Spirit prompting both

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of us individually.
And So what we recognized was

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that we would continue to pray
about these prompts and that we

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also could take some very
practical steps because we were

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well beyond 35 in this scenario,
which means we're automatically

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high risk.
And then we have Luke's death

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and we have the complications
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And so we realized that it
probably made sense for us to

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develop a relationship with an
OB that specialized.

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In high risk pregnancies and
someone that we felt comfortable

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with.
So my wife asked around since

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now we lived in a completely
different state from where Luke

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and their daughter were born.
And we were referred to an

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obstetrician that we ended up
having a great relationship with

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and realized OK, well in the
event God wants us to get

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pregnant and then in the event
that he blesses it and we do get

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pregnant.
We now have a relationship with

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a doctor that will be with us
along the way.

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So we continue to bathe the
entire thing in prayer and felt

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very clearly that the Holy
Spirit was green lighting us

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getting pregnant so.
In those.

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Conversations of where we're
coming together and aligning.

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My wife says I want to make sure
that we avoid January as a due

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date and delivery date if we get
pregnant again, to which I said

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OK, I fully support that because
again, remember that is the

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month that Luke dies and the
month that Luke is delivered in.

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So she understandably wants to
completely avoid January.

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And I said great, no problem, I
can do the math on this.

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We'll play prevent defense as
long as we need to so that the

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math works out that in the event
we get pregnant right away,

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which we had historically had
success with, that will be into

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February or beyond.
Again, many years have a lapsed

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year.
So we're thinking there's the

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potential to get pregnant right
away because we had that happen

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previously.
But we're not really expecting

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that that's going to necessarily
happen because again, we're

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beyond 35 and kind of well
beyond 35.

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Well.
The Holy Spirit again has

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mentioned green lights things
and we get pregnant right away.

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I mean, it was.
It was right away.

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And so based off of 40 weeks
gestational, that would have put

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us into a due date that was into
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We both.
Go in for the first OB

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appointment and of course, you
know, we're, we're very excited.

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We're surprised, you know,
we're.

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Yeah, there's just a.
Lot of emotions.

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At this point, you know what I
mean?

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But on the whole, we for sure
are like, OK, well, God is

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blessing this.
This wouldn't have happened if

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he didn't want it to happen.
So there's a general sense of

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excitement here, but also a
wondering about legitimately the

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unknown.
And so my wife and the

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ultrasound tech are making sort
of like the general, you know,

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how's the weather out there kind
of conversation.

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And at one point the ultrasound
tech says to my wife, you know,

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how have you been feeling?
Again, just general

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conversation.
And my wife says, well, you

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know, I've been feeling sicker
with this pregnancy than I have

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with my prior pregnancies.
But she says it's been a number

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of years since I've been
pregnant, I'm older, etcetera.

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And at this point in all of this
small talk, the ultrasound tech

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is doing her work up on my wife.
And these early or first

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ultrasounds are not external.
They're actually internal.

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And so they have this brief
exchange, and my wife says that

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she feels sicker than usual or
sicker than she remembers.

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And the ultrasound tech says,
yeah, well, there's good reason

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for that.
And I'm sitting in the room.

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I'm a bit more of a family on
the wall since I'm off to the

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side of this whole thing.
And I said to the ultrasound

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tech, I said, you're going to
tell us we're having twins.

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And she sort of quick looks over
at me and says, how did you know

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I've got a good poker face?
And I said I could just tell so

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at.
That point.

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She turns on the flat screen TV
that's up on the wall in this

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examination room and my wife and
I get to lay our eyeballs on

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these two little Nuggets
wiggling around and we are

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absolutely floored.
I mean, completely blown away

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because we're thinking.
We're going to get.

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Pregnant and have one kid.
Like that's it.

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That's kind of like what
happens.

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You get pregnant, you get one
kid, and now we're literally

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seeing 2.
Now.

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I'm kind of over the moon
because I'm like, this is just

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cool.
This is just amazing.

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Like go God, this is just
absolutely neat.

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And my wife not so much.
And we later talked about that

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because I didn't quite
understand it.

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I'm thinking, why aren't you
over?

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The moon here like.
Look at this this.

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You know.
Extra baby basically like this

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is wild and crazy and she had
this just the most clear degree

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of insight, which was so helpful
for me for how I could then love

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on her and care for her.
She said.

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Nick, I now have double the
risk.

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And that.
Really helped me to see that

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while of course she is happy and
of course she is excited, she

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knows what can happen with these
pregnancies and we've had

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challenges along the way and now
she has double risk.

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While we prayed.
About that we continue to bathe

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the babies in prayer and
eventually found we found out

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that we were having boys.
And I mentioned before that we

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have done all of our math to
avoid January.

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And.
January, right, is the month

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that Luke dies.
He's delivered and we're doing

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our best to stay away from that.
Well, all of that math is based

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off of 40 weeks and 40 weeks is
the normal full term for a baby.

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But in a high risk pregnancy
with a high risk specialist

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obstetrician, multiples, in our
case twins get forced out at 36

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weeks.
And what?

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That did was that moved our due
date from the second-half of

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February to the second-half of
January.

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And my.
Wife wanted nothing to do with

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that, and understandably so.
So.

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She and the OB.
Would have like some contentious

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conversations about that to the
point where my wife was like,

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just get me to 37 weeks.
Like just let me get into

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February.
And the OB continued to say

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they're coming out at 36 weeks.
They're coming out at 36 weeks.

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And.
I was bathing all of this in

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prayer.
My wife was as well.

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We were together, but you can
imagine my wife's perspective on

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this.
Just get me to February.

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Give me one more week, Give me 4
more days, five more days,

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whatever it would have taken to
get to February before you

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induce.
And the OB was very firm.

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January.
Now in the prayer time that I'm

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spending bathing all of this in
prayer, I get the most amazing

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indication from the Holy Spirit
and he tells me.

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These boys.
Are going to be born alive and

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they're going to be born in
January.

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And he said.
To me, at the outset of this, he

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goes, you tried to control this
and you are not in control.

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So.
Those boys will be born in

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January, they'll be born alive,
and you will celebrate 2 living

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birthdays in January in addition
to celebrating Luke's birthday.

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Because I am.
This is the Holy Spirit

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communicating to me because I am
redeeming Luke's death.

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And then he drops this to end
it.

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There was a little bit of a
pause and he says, and you will

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tell this story so that I will
be glorified.

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I'm like.
Whoa, like that's amazing.

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Because that was literal
indication, confirmation,

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whatever we want to call that,
of the fact that the boys are

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going to be born alive.
OK.

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And then he tells me they're
going to be born in January.

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So.
We could be looking at the.

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OB saying, man, why weren't you
like a little more flexible

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here?
3 days, four days, five days,

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seven days, whatever it was to
get to February, why not let

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that happen?
Well, the answer is, 'cause God

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was working this whole thing
because He's in charge of this

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whole thing and His plan, not
ours.

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His plan was January.
So I go to my wife and I said,

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honey, you got to knock it off
with the doctor.

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The Holy Spirit has told me the
boys are going to be born alive.

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They're going to be born in
January.

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We're going to celebrate living
birthdays.

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And that.
Friends is exactly what happened

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on January 30th.
My wife delivered vaginally our

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two identical twin boys and they
were born 7 years to the month

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after Luke's death.
We go from January of 2012 to

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January of 2019.
And God is so good.

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That when we hated.
Him.

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He protected us.
He saved me from an avalanche.

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And there's all kinds of
incidences in my wife's life

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where she looks back and goes,
man, I should have never been in

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that situation.
It should have never turned out

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the way that it did.
And I was protected by God, so.

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Even when.
We hated him.

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He loved.
Us and then he.

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Loved us so much that he made a
decision that.

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We couldn't make for ourselves.
We would have.

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Never.
Given up Luke for eternal life.

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We just wouldn't.
Have.

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We were not those people.
We didn't have that.

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Capacity, we didn't have that
capability.

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We would have never.
Given our son.

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So God.
Took him and God brought us in

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relationship with him and
changed.

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Everything changed everything.
And we are so grateful for the

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blessing that the death of our
son represents.

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And yet we miss him and we love
him.

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And we would.
Love to take him to church like

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we get to take our three living
children to church.

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We'd love to do things together.
We'd love to have heard him cry.

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We'd love to have seen his eyes.
But we didn't get.

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Any of that.
But we fully believe that he is.

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With the king that.
He is that he is living the

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dream.
He is in.

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Heaven.
And we have the hope.

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Because of.
Our confidence in Christ.

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We have the hope that we will
see Luke.

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And we're in.
Heaven.

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So we're going to heaven, and so
is our daughter.

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And we pray.
That our sons will accept Jesus

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as their Savior.
That they will get on their

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knees.
And that they will indicate

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that.
He is not only the way, the

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truth and the life, but He.
He is also Lord of their life.

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Lord of their.
Lives.

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And we believe.
That's coming, too.

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So I.
Want to close?

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This out with.
It really is.

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Absolutely no coincidence that
our son died.

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It's 1. 1000% God, we give him
all the glory for it, because he

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deserves all the glory for it.
And as I've.

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Outlined.
Our life.

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Has changed.
So incredibly thoroughly.

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It has changed eternally.
And our family tree has changed

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eternally.
So I.

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Went from this overgrown boy,
this 31 year old man, at least

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according to the state.
But I wasn't a man.

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I was an overgrown child.
And it wasn't until I came into

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relationship with Jesus Christ
that He began to turn me into a

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man, to make me into a man.
And I am grateful that I get on

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my knees and pray because I
recognize the position that I

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have in God and beneath God,
meaning that I understand my

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identity is that I was created
in Him and through Him as what

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is described in Ephesians 210 as
being His handiwork or His

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masterpiece.
So that's who I am, with all my

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faults and with all my
brokenness.

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I recognize that He created me
the way He wanted me to be.

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But then as I.
See it much more importantly, He

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created me on purpose to bring
Him glory, and He did that with

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specific things that He prepared
in advance for me and I believe

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everyone else to do.
And so now it's my intention and

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my wife's intention that we live
that out.

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And so we regularly ask him,
what do you want us to do?

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What does Your will have for us
to do today, tomorrow, and

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beyond, so that we bring You
glory, so that Your will is done

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here on earth just like it is in
heaven, with and through us, to

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whatever extent He wants that to
be?

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So we are.
Radically different.

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We are completely different.
And all of that is because of

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God's mercy.
And his.

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Grace and the relationship that
we entered in our moment of

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complete and utter surrender and
desperation, knowing this is

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beyond us and God met us there.
He's held us, He's loved us, and

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He's been doing that our entire
lives, even when we didn't see

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it and didn't want it.
Thank you guys for listening.

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This is the story of Luke
Weinhold's death.

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My wife and I coming into
relationship with Jesus Christ.

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The blessings that have flown
after that and God's goodness,

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all glory be to God.