She Was Channeling Spirits — Then This Voice Asked One Question | Dr. Laurette Willis | 050

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I was driving home and I heard
the audible voice of God, and

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here was the question he asked
me.

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What if everything you thought
about God was completely wrong?

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Would you be willing to give it
up to know the truth?

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Welcome to When You Look, where
ordinary people share their

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extraordinary experiences and
you get to decide, was it

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coincidence or God?
Doctor Lorette, welcome to When

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You Look.
So great to have you on the

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show.
Thank you, Mick.

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I'm honored to be here today.
Well, we are genuinely excited

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to have you here.
You've got a such a unique and

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interesting story and I cannot
wait for everybody to hear it,

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myself included.
But before we get to it, tell us

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a little bit about yourself.
Well, you know, the scripture

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that comes to my mind when I
think of my story is First

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Corinthians 127, that God
chooses the foolish things of

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this world to confound the wise.
And you know, the Lord takes the

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weak things of this world to
confound those that are mighty

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in themselves.
And I say that as a as an

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encouragement to those believers
who are watching today and pre

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believers as well, or like,
well, I'm not really sure about

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this, but I, I absolutely like
you know that the Lord can take

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any negative in your life and
turn it around to be positive.

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I'm blessed to be the founder of
praise moves fitness ministry,

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the Christian alternative to
yoga.

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And you're going to learn about
that.

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It's not Christian yoga.
That's an oxymoron like a

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Christian Buddhist, no such
thing, but you're going to learn

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about that.
I've been in yoga for 22 years,

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ages 7 until I was 29 when I
came to the Lord.

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And then also weight loss
without willpower, where it's

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not by might nor by power, but
by my spirit, sayeth the Lord

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Zechariah, 46, about losing
excess weight without diet,

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without deprivation, without
delay.

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And that comes from negatives in
my life as well.

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When I was 22 years in the New
age and then the weight loss I

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was for decades, from the age of
6, an emotional eater with the

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diet roller coaster up and down,
up and down South, negatives

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turn to positive, giving us
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That's what the Lord does.
I'm so grateful.

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Yeah, praise God for sure.
Well, thank you so much for that

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overview.
Let's go into your story.

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So you mentioned many years and
New Age and those types of

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things.
I think that's a great segue

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into some really specific
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So give us some back story and
then walk us through things as

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they went for you.
All right, well, thank you.

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Well, I grew up on Long Island
or Long Island, as we say.

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You know, all my family talks
like that because, you know,

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we're from New York, my dad from
Brooklyn, my mother from Queens,

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What can I tell you?
But now I live in northeastern

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Oklahoma and everybody talks
like this and just seems to be

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maybe I'm somewhere in between
there but grew up on Long Island

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and also lived in New York City
had been a an actress off

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Broadway and known as the woman
of 101 voices.

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I did the Betty Boop show off
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I was Betty Boop.
I certainly was and did a lot of

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wacky things in my BC days.
But what all LED up to to that

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everything looked wonderful on
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Everything looked so beautiful.
My mother was the first woman

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assistant District Attorney on
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My dad was a judge and had the
law practice, didn't have any

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brothers or sisters.
So it was just just, you know,

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me, just spoiled rotten, right?
But love the Lord.

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When I was very little, from the
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have visions and whenever I was
upset, I would run into my

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closet.
I'd shut the door and I would

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see this.
It was like a movie that would

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play on the back of my closet
door and I would see myself on

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stage from the back, like I was
looking like through a curtain,

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just through a portal of time,
you know, seeing myself from the

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back.
And I knew I was, I was older.

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I wasn't sure what age, but I
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one hand and my hand was raised
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And we didn't do that in the
Episcopal Church where I grew

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up.
We didn't do that.

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But I knew it had something to
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And I was in front of what I
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audience.
So I must have seen Billy Graham

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on television somewhere.
And there were all these people.

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It was outdoors, and they all
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And I know they weren't saying,
Gee, you're really great,

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Lorette.
No, it had something to do with

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the Lord.
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And I would hear this voice over
my shoulder saying everything's

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going to be all right.
Everything's going to be all

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right.
So whenever I was upset, I was

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very, very sensitive as a child
and I would run away if someone

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hurt my feelings and I'd go in
my closet, I'd close the door.

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And so from the ages of 3 1/2
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would see that.
And I was very close to the Lord

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Mick, I, I loved him so much.
I was given a picture Bible when

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I was little, even before I
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stuffed animals around in a semi
circle and I would tell them

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things from the historical
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I don't like calling them
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it's make believe, but they're
historical accounts, right?

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It's it's true.
And I would say, you know, what

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was what was happening there.
And so I say this as an

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encouragement to our viewers and
listeners today to make sure

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that you give the children in
your life a Bible, a picture

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Bible, something that they, if
they're never too young, they're

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never read it to them as well.
And show them and let them know

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this really happened.
These are real people and

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they're still alive.
They're in heaven with the Lord.

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These are real people.
This is what really happened.

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And I would, I would tell, you
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accounts to my, my little
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And then I would interject jokes
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so hard.
He needs a good laugh.

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And so I would come on, I'd come
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there was one for Noah and my
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This is how I, I know this
because my mother would relate

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this story and I would say, and
God said to Noah, Noah, build me

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an ark.
And Noah said, OK, God, that's

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right up my Lally.
That's right up my alley.

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I was saying.
And then I said, won't God get a

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kick out of that?
So as I was saying, everything

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seemed lovely on the outside,
but on the inside, my mother was

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an alcoholic.
My father was an emotional eater

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and a rageaholic.
That's an actual term.

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And at the age of 6, I began
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overeating.
I remember being I was about 6

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years old and my mother was
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I don't know if she'd been
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My mother had three nervous
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up.
She had tried to commit suicide

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when I was little, and she
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I was 24.
But I ran into the bedroom and I

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touched her on the face lightly,
and I said, mommy, mommy, I

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can't stop eating.
For the past hour, I'd been

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stuffing my face with anything
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find in the kitchen to numb the
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And I can look back on that
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you know, as horrible as that
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But it's like that's what kept
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me sane to a certain extent.
And I say that to our listeners

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as well.
Maybe some things that have

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happened in your past.
But if you say, OK, but I'm

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still here, you know, and it
kept me alive, Someone else may

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not have made it through that,
but by the grace of God, you

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know, we're still here.
So that was six years old.

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But at 7 years old, my mother
and I found yoga thinking it was

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just exercise, and it actually
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Mom and I started going to an
ashram in upstate New York.

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We'd visit there and I was
blessed in air quotes by Swami

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Satchidananda.
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How did that happen?
Well, whenever there's a

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spiritual vacuum, feel the enemy
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And we may have listeners who
who do yoga.

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And so I'm never anything like
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I don't do any of the chanting,
the mantra, you know, all that

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stuff.
But there are certain

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influences, let's say, on things
that you know, things that

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perhaps we cannot see doesn't.
My mother and I were not strong

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believers at the time.
We, we didn't, I didn't even

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know you could have a personal
relationship with Jesus Christ

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until many, many years later.
I mean, that was considered

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cuckoo town where I came from.
It's just like, oh, she talks to

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Jesus, you know, you know, that
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That was crazy.
I didn't know.

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And my husband Paul and I have
since said so many times, why

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didn't someone tell us that we
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relationship with God through
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No one ever explained that to us
because I, we would have been

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all over it.
You could have a personal

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relationship with God.
I've been looking for God in all

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the wrong places.
So that led us.

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Yoga LED us away.
Well, there was turmoil in our

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in our home.
And when I was 13, my parents

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divorced, my mom and I moved to
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part of New York City, one of
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And that's when I found alcohol,
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And I drank just about every day
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I still held down jobs.
Yeah, I still, you know, did all

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the thing.
But I was dead on the inside,

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Mick.
That was the thing.

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I was dead on the inside.
You know, when I look back

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sometime, what if this hadn't
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What if this hadn't happened?
What if this hadn't happened?

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But those things did happen.
And yet the Lord in his infinite

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mercy changed me and he'll
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He'll take those things and turn
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When I was 15, found smoking 16,
promiscuous lifestyle, death

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style.
You know, I'm, I'm amazed I'm

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still alive.
I, I used to have blackouts,

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alcoholic blackouts and run
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City.
If you can imagine such a thing,

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I'm and I would have been in a
sinner's hell so many times I

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could have died.
I'm so grateful, so grateful to

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the Lord, my parents, my my mom
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She took her life when I was 24.
My dad two years later died from

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diabetes and heart disease.
He was 58 and he looked 88.

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Wow.
It was, yeah.

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It's phenomenal.
I started on this journey.

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I was in the I was involved in
the new age and new age

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spirituality.
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what new age is, it's a, it's a
compilation of a bunch of

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different beliefs and I was into
everything from astrology to

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Zoroastrianism A-Z, you know,
everything in between.

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And just because it's spiritual
doesn't mean it's good.

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See, that's, that's where I was
confused.

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I didn't realize that there can
be some profound spiritual

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experiences, but I felt like I
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If you've ever seen those, those
cartoons with a, with a donkey

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with the carrot dangled in in
front of them and it just keeps

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going along, going along chasing
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That was me looking at the, you
know, the next conference, the

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next spiritual experience, the
next thing to, to have an

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experience with, with God.
I went to Europe for 6 1/2

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months.
I backpacked around 20 countries

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in 6 1/2 months when I was 28,
went to all the so-called sacred

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sites.
I went to South America, went to

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Peru, Machu Picchu, always
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And then I moved to a new age
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Oklahoma.
I did a geographical cure and it

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doesn't cure, it doesn't work.
I thought the old me would stay

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back in New York City, but no,
she followed me out there.

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Who would have thought?
Yeah, Who would have sunk?

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Yeah, right.
And that's what brought me to

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the end of myself, Nick.
I was a year living in that New

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Age community.
I was a psychic.

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I was a channel meaning allowing
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me.
And I was psychic, you know,

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people would would say, oh wow,
you know, it must be God.

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No, there's things called
familiar spirits.

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You see that in the Bible.
They're they're familiar with

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things, you know, and it's a
twisting the enemy is not a

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creator.
He'll only take those things

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that God has created and twist
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of a false idol.
It's a twisting of being able to

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hear the voice of the spirit,
you know, to hear the Lord or

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first Corinthians 12, discerning
of spirits and word of wisdom,

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word of knowledge.
They're twisted by the enemy to,

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you know, it's like having like
a little demon on your shoulder.

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You know, little cartoons like
like that, But it's, it's very

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deceptive.
It's evil.

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And I used to be so deceived
that I would be at a psychic

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festival with, with a Bible on
my table thinking, you know,

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that would, you know, that that
would make it all right.

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I really thought I was serving
God.

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I was so deceived.
That's what deception is.

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It's one of the 4D attack of the
enemy, Deception,

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discouragement, distraction, and
then delay.

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Maybe it's not God's will for me
after all.

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But if it's in the word of God,
hold on to those precious

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promises.
In Hebrew, the words are the

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royal proclamations of a king.
That's what the promises of God

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are.
The day before I surrendered my

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life to the Lord, I wanted
someone to love me for myself.

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I'd been looking for God in all
the wrong places.

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I was 29 years old.
I'd never been married.

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I wanted someone to love me for
myself.

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And the day before, I was
driving home to this new age

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community where I lived, and I
heard what I sincerely believe

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was the audible voice of God.
Because I'd heard his voice when

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I was little and was over my
right shoulder right here, just

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as when I was little.
And I was driving.

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And I pulled off to the side of
the this gravel Rd.

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And here was the question he
asked me.

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What if everything you thought
about God was completely wrong?

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Would you be willing to give it
up to know the truth?

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I said, wow, what if everything
I thought about God was

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completely wrong?
Would I be willing to give it up

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to know the truth?
I'd spent thousands of dollars,

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I'd been all over the world
looking for God in all the wrong

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places.
Would I be willing to give it up

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to know the truth, thinking the
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Is that a philosophy, but not
realizing the truth is a person,

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Jesus, the way, the truth and
the life.

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And I said yes, yes I would.
I'd be willing to give it all to

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know the truth.
And the next day, like I was in

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my home and there was a battle
going on on the inside.

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I was walking around and around
in the kitchen.

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My dog, Tula, this little border
collie, she's watching me go

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around and around and around
like this.

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And I felt this battle going on
on the inside.

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And finally I just let it loose.
To the Lord, I said, I

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surrender, I give up.
You win.

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If you can do something with
this life, you can have it.

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And I fell onto my knees and I
said, if you want me to be

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alone, then give me peace.
If you want me to be with

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someone, send them soon as I
can't live like this anymore.

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And I fell on my face and Mick,
I felt a physical weight lift

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off me, which I learned later
was the weight of sin.

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It felt like about 30 lbs of
weight, like my own body on the

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earth.
I thought that was just the

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weight of me, but it was the
weight of sin.

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And and New Agers, they don't
believe in sin.

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They believe it's an acronym for
self-inflicted nonsense.

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Well, why did Jesus come then?
Oh, he was just a good teacher.

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No.
And at that moment when that

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weight lifted, peace descended
upon me for the first time in my

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life.
True peace.

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And from the center of that
peace came joy.

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Not not mere happiness, but but
that joy unspeakable and full of

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glory just washed over me.
And I realized later the Lord

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delivered me from alcoholism.
At that moment.

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I didn't even ask for that.
But God in his, my heavenly

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Father, in his infinite mercy,
realized, you know, she's not

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going to be able to faith her
way out of this or pray her way

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out of this.
I'm going to deliver her from

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it.
I'm going to deliver it from

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her.
And four days later I met my

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husband Paul, who had three
years clean and sober.

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So alcohol and drugs never came
into our relationship.

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And we were married three months
later on 4th of July, what we

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call Interdependence Day.
Glory to God.

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And that's that's my story.
Pray has come forevermore.

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Yeah, Doctor Laurette, thank
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I just feel the feelings, so I'm
just so grateful, so grateful.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And we appreciate your your

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honesty in it and your emotion
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Genuinely.
Genuinely.

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Thank you.
So much there.

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There's a few things I want to
come back and kind of understand

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a little bit more, yes.
So in this moment of surrender,

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you are delivered from
alcoholism.

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How do you know that that has
occurred?

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It was really remarkable because
I didn't even realize it until a

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year later.
That's how washed from my brain

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it was.
It was.

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It was phenomenal.
Say more.

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Yeah, I didn't have another
drink.

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I I didn't even want it.
It didn't even occur to me it

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would be sort of like all of a
sudden being asked to speak a

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foreign language that you don't
know and have never heard.

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You know, it's just like it's
not there.

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It's it's gone.
It's and I didn't even think at

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any point during that time.
Oh, I'm not drinking anymore.

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I'm not thinking.
But it was totally washed from

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my mind and.
The other, you know, it was a it

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was self medicating coping
mechanism, you know, whatever

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you want to call it, a lot of
you know, great words can

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explain that what it was.
And also smoking and and now the

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smoking didn't disappear right
away and the compulsive

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overeating, the emotional eating
didn't disappear right away

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either.
Now the smoking came.

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Oh my goodness, I tried so many
times, meant through willpower

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to quit.
I knew I was supposed to.

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I wanted to, but I'd always go
back to it.

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It was so really bothered me.
And then one day, it was a

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September.
I remember it was September.

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I was, I think I was like 35.
I think I'd been smoking for 20

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years, from the age of 15 till I
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And I just sensed in my heart, I
didn't hear an audible voice of

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the Lord, but I just sensed the
Lord saying, I want you to quit

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smoking.
I want you to sing for me.

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I want you to sing praise to me.
And I've always been blessed,

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you know, by the grace of God
with with a lovely voice.

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And I have to thank the Lord and
thank my mother.

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And I can't take any credit for
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It it's the grace of God because
He'll call you to do certain

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things for him.
And for me, it's communication.

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That's the gift that He's given
me.

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And the enemy will always attack
you in the area of your greatest

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gift because He wants you to
shut up.

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He wants you to stop doing
whatever it is that the Lord

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wants you to do.
I was so ruled by fear most of

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my life, ruled and riddled by
fear when I began being

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discipled at church and really
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And I was like this, this is
what I've been looking for my

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whole life.
Wow.

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It's just like glory to God when
I found it.

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The word of God is a person
Jesus Christ.

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You know any I've got, you know,
I've got different books here.

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These books, they, they
showcase, you know, what a

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person does and what they think.
But this book is a person,

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Jesus.
John 11 says in the beginning

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was the word.
The word was with God.

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The word was God.
Verse 14 says the word became

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flesh and dwelt among us.
The word is Jesus.

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Revelation 1913 says when Jesus
come back, comes back, it's it

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says his name is the word of
God.

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I was like, this is what I've
been looking for my whole life.

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So I believe in my heart that I
was set, you know, set a date to

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give up smoking just to trust
the Lord in this not willpower,

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but his power.
I was like, OK, Lord I, I'll do

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it.
And he, he said to fast, just to

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fast on water that day and to
trust him and to start praising

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him that I was free dance in
advance, you know, praise

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through the breakthrough, I like
to say.

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And so I, I just, I did exactly
that.

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And the most amazing thing about
2:00 in the afternoon, I felt a

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headache coming toward me.
So this is so I've never

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experienced anything like that
or since, But it was a symptom

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coming toward me as like, do you
want to accept this, You know,

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you know.
Yeah.

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Like, do you want to accept
that?

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It's, you know, because, you
know, when you quit an

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addiction, you know, you're
going to have withdrawals,

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you're going to have headaches.
You're going to have, you know,

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and I could have accepted it.
I was like, I rebuke that in the

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name of Jesus.
No, Satan, take up your weapons

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and flee.
I rebuke that headache in the

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name of Jesus.
That was the only symptom that

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came toward me.
I rebuked it, and that because

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I'd learned how to do that.
Rebuking a spirit of fear.

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Second Timothy 17 says God has
not given you a spirit of fear,

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but of power, love, and a sound
mind.

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I was like, whoa, a spirit of
fear.

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I thought it was an emotion.
I thought it was me.

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I thought that fear was me.
No, it's a spirit of fear, and

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God didn't give it to you.
God has not given you a spirit

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of fear, but of power and of
love and a sound mind.

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Well, if God didn't give it to
you, who did?

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The enemy, I thought, what can I
do about that?

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Rebuke in the name of Jesus?
What does rebuke mean?

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It just means to command to go.
It's not anything fancy.

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And you don't, you know, rebuke
demons out of door knobs and all

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kinds of crazy stuff like that.
But you know, submit to God,

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resist the devil and he will
flee.

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Scripture says, so I resist you
in the name of Jesus.

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I command you to go in Jesus
name.

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And so that was the only symptom
that I had.

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But you know when those things
were gone, Mick, the original

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drug of choice, the food or
really the overeating,

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overeating under feeling, that's
what it is.

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The overeating came back with a
vengeance and I started gaining

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weight and it was very
difficult.

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I was in Overeaters Anonymous
for five years and that's how I

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went through the 12 step
program.

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I didn't go through the 12 step
program through Alcoholics

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Anonymous or Narcotics
Anonymous, but through

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Overeaters Anonymous and some of
them that, you know, kind of

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get, you know, a little new Agey
and stuff.

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So I pulled away, you know,
after five years.

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But I tell you the, the
foundation is biblical, you know

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it and it, it absolutely is the,
the 12 steps.

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And it was still, I still had
difficulty with that.

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And you know, Mick, I could, I
could get back into that quite

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easily if I wanted to.
So it is a daily walk with me.

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And it reminds me of when Paul
said that I, I rather glory in

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my infirmities.
And when he's talking about

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infirmities, he's not talking
about sickness like we think of

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infirmities as, but it means in
my weakness, I glory in my

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weakness because where I am
weak, He is strong, you know,

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and the Scripture that the Lord
gave me for this is, I call it

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my Ephesians 51 daily walk.
Ephesians 51 Stand fast,

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therefore, in the liberty by
which Christ has made you free,

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and do not allow yourself to
become entangled again with a

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yoke of bondage.
So it's a choice.

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And I have to see standing fast,
like there's glue underneath the

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soles of my shoes, you know?
And I'm standing fast on the

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rock.
I'm standing fast in that

446
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,680
liberty by which Christ has made
me free.

447
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,520
And I do not allow myself to
become entangled again with a

448
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,760
yoke of bondage.
It's always there as a reminder.

449
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,600
But you know, I say it this way
too, Mick.

450
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,040
I can have all the wine, all the
whiskey, all the cigarettes, all

451
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,800
the cake and ice cream that I
want to.

452
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,040
But you know what?
I don't want to, I want to has

453
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,200
changed only the Lord can do
that, and that's what we do in

454
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760
our our ministry weight loss
without willpower.

455
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,040
Isn't that wonderful?
It's it's Romans 811, Romans

456
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,560
811.
If the spirit of him who raised

457
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Jesus from the dead dwells in
you, then he who raised Christ

458
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,160
from the dead will also quicken
or give life to your mortal

459
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520
body.
Hell through a diet, a special

460
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,760
cream, a you know, certain
exercise.

461
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,160
You no, not from the outside in,
but through his spirit who lives

462
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,240
in you.
That's the change that happens

463
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,880
from the inside out.
That's why we like to say don't

464
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:08,960
diet, live it.
Thank you.

465
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:18,440
Wow, man, there's a lot here.
Doctor Lorette, thank you for

466
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,720
giving us a little bit more
insight into those addictions,

467
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,880
some of them being
instantaneously be redeemed,

468
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,480
some of them a little bit
further down the road being

469
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,160
redeemed.
And, and you describe that

470
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,840
fasting process in response to
the direction that you got from

471
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,200
God.
So really, really neat.

472
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,000
So you mentioned before a
handful of days, I believe four

473
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:49,720
days after coming into
relationship with Jesus, you

474
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,000
meet your now husband, Paul.
How does that go down?

475
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:01,960
Well, Paul, my husband, he his
his dad and stepmom were

476
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,880
visiting and and his stepmother
took photos of everything.

477
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,240
It drove Paul crazy.
But I tell you what, I'm so glad

478
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,840
that she did because I have this
great picture and it's me from

479
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,800
behind and we met at a church.
We met at a church in in Texas

480
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,960
actually that he was he was
going to.

481
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,360
I was living in northeastern
Oklahoma, but I didn't been

482
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:31,360
invited to to a a conference.
And so I, I went there, I just,

483
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,200
I drove there and I just felt it
was the right thing to do.

484
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,080
The woman that I had been
staying with, Cheryl, she said,

485
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:46,040
I want you to meet someone
before I met Paul and I want you

486
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,640
to meet someone.
And he's, he's, he's a, a lovely

487
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,280
young man.
And the way she was describing

488
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240
him, I thought he was like 15,
you know, I thought maybe 1415.

489
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760
And, you know, just like he was
a kid was because she was a much

490
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,720
older woman and said, you know,
he'd be interested in in what

491
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,280
you're doing some of the
different in US.

492
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,200
I was like, oh, yeah, sure.
But I remember she turned around

493
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,400
and was like at the the service
and she said, oh, there's Paul.

494
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,040
There he is.
And the first thing I, I looked

495
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:20,800
and I went, whoa, that's no kid
27 year old man.

496
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,160
I was like, oh wow.
And so I spent the day with him

497
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,680
and his dad and his step mom who
were visiting.

498
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,000
And there are these beautiful
bluebells in this part.

499
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,240
It was Lake Whitney, TX and
fields just covered with

500
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,480
bluebells.
Just absolutely beautiful.

501
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,800
And took a picture of, of us in
the, in the bluebells.

502
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,400
And then I had to leave.
And Paul said something to me

503
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160
that I thought was so sweet.
And, and it spoke to my child's

504
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,720
heart.
He said, Oh, I wish you could

505
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360
stay here and we could play some
more together.

506
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,600
And I knew what he meant.
It was the, it was the child

507
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,920
inside.
And I was like, whoa, he's, he's

508
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,160
different.
And then the then he came up to,

509
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,400
to visit and to, to visit me in
northeastern Oklahoma.

510
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,800
And so the second time I I saw
him, we took a walk together and

511
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,960
he said, I see you as a vision
in white.

512
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,280
And I knew he meant getting
married.

513
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,240
And so I said, beautiful
dreamer.

514
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,680
And I was like, I'm, I'm you're
not going to get me that easy,

515
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,560
pal.
You know, wait a second, but I

516
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:46,240
felt in my heart this was this
was answered prayer and I had

517
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:52,760
actually written a list of 150
qualities of the perfect man.

518
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,240
Believe it or not, for me, I had
Paul has all of them except 2,

519
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,880
and they're the ones that are
weren't even that important to

520
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,880
me.
And I tell you what, it's just

521
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,760
it gets better every year.
I'm I'm so grateful, so grateful

522
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,040
to the Lord, but the Lord will
give you the desires of your

523
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,760
heart.
You know, when you look at that

524
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,840
Scripture that says when you
delight yourself and the Lord,

525
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,480
he gives you the desires of your
heart.

526
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760
And that word delightmic in
Hebrew it was that was

527
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,960
translated delight.
And yes, we delight ourselves,

528
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,800
we praise, we worship, we love
the Lord.

529
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,520
But the actual word in Hebrew is
anog for delight.

530
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,240
It was translated delight when
you anog yourself and the Lord,

531
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,600
he gives you the desires of your
heart.

532
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Anog means when you allow
yourself to be moldable like

533
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,160
clay in the hands of the Lord,
he gives you the desires of your

534
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,720
heart.
I see it that he gives the

535
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,000
desires from his great heart
into our heart so that he can do

536
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,760
these things through US.
One of his names is Jehovah

537
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,640
Makke.
Jehovah Makkeh MAKKEH, which

538
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,440
means the Lord who molds me.
Isn't that beautiful that he?

539
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,720
He does that.
And so he'll always call you.

540
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640
And this is an encouragement to
someone out there today too.

541
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,800
He'll always call you to do
something far greater than you

542
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,480
could ever do yourself, and you
have dreams in your heart.

543
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,600
But He's calling you to do these
things through you, because if

544
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,040
you could do it yourself, how
would he get any glory for it?

545
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,800
Well said.
Amen.

546
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Well, Doctor Lorette, I want to
explore a little bit more here

547
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:40,600
how you make the practical turn
or the practical transition of a

548
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,440
being redeemed and saved coming
into relationship with Jesus.

549
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,080
And if I'm tracking with you
correctly, you are still living

550
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,280
in your New age community and
all of that stuff.

551
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,400
So if I have misunderstood that,
correct us.

552
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,240
But if I'm tracking with you
correctly, just talk us about

553
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:07,200
how you practically made your
way out of that particular space

554
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120
or world or community or
lifestyle or whatever we're

555
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,960
going to call it into exactly
what you were, a born again

556
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,120
Christian.
Yes, well, wanted to get out of

557
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,719
there.
That was very, very clear.

558
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,040
Wanted to get out of there,
didn't have a lot of money at

559
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,280
all.
Had to sell the house and I was

560
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,199
willing to live anywhere.
Just get, Get Me Out of here.

561
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,719
And so we, we sold the house
took like an $11,000 loss just

562
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,040
to it's I didn't care.
Just Get Me Out of here.

563
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:47,120
And we moved into $175 a month
rental house in Tahlequah, OK.

564
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,679
And we lived there for eight
years.

565
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,639
But you know, there were some of
the happiest years because

566
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:58,160
growing in the Lord, he is where
you are.

567
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,520
And it was it was just so good.
And the, the church that I went

568
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,840
to is a little mission church.
It was right down the road,

569
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040
right down the hill from where I
lived.

570
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:16,160
And, and it just got really,
really close there and began

571
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,160
studying for the for the
ministry as well.

572
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,800
And just so, so grateful.
And one day.

573
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,960
And the thing was I was, I was
teaching at a university.

574
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,480
I was also cleaning houses at
the same time to make ends meet,

575
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,120
you know, just doing all kinds
of things.

576
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,000
My husband also entrepreneurial,
he had a sign painting business,

577
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,120
very gifted artist.
And one day I was in Food for

578
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,440
less Supermarket kind of lets
you know what it's all about.

579
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:53,640
It's food for less, right?
And I was, I was in this aisle

580
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,400
and there's, you know, it was
like a warehouse kind of a

581
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,200
place.
And I'm in the canned vegetable

582
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,720
aisle.
And I was weighing between two

583
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:09,800
cans of green beans.
One was $0.23 a can, one was 20.

584
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,680
And they're little, you know,
20-3 cents.

585
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,600
One was $0.25 a can.
And I was weighing between the

586
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600
two.
Did I want to splurge the extra

587
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,880
$0.02 on the $0.25 can of beans
and make?

588
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,320
I came to the end of myself
again and I said Lord, I don't

589
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,600
want to live like this anymore.
There's got to be a better way.

590
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,360
And at that moment a dream fell
into my heart.

591
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,080
That's about the best way I can
describe it.

592
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:45,480
A dream fell into my heart and
it was a three bedroom home on

593
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,280
40 acres.
To believe God for that, a three

594
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:55,120
bedroom home on 40 acres.
And I said, Lord, is that, is

595
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,840
that what you want me to leave
you for, to have?

596
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:05,400
And I said, I said out of out of
my mouth, Lord, if you can use a

597
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,240
donkey, you can use me.
You'll get all the glory for it.

598
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,760
And I went home and I wrote it
on a little index card and I

599
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,480
held it up to the Lord 3 bedroom
home on 40 acres.

600
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,280
I believe you, Lord, for it.
And within eight months we moved

601
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,120
on to where I Live Today.
We call it the Prayer Farm.

602
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:33,120
It's a 3 bedroom home on 40
acres the Lord supplied for us.

603
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,320
Just amazing just how it all
came together.

604
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,640
And we, we love it here.
We get to live large online, you

605
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,280
know, we get to live where you
want to live.

606
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,920
And I'd always dreamed of living
in the country.

607
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,760
I'd always wanted to live
something that lives somewhere

608
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,440
like this.
So if you have a dream in your

609
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,320
heart, don't give up.
Seek the Lord, write it down,

610
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520
commit your works unto Him and
your thoughts will be

611
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,440
established.
Do something in a way that he

612
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,680
gets all the glory for it and
watch what He will do.

613
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Now some people might say, oh,
you're one of those.

614
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Name it and claim it people.
Well, if God named it, I claim

615
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,200
it.
I don't claim anything that He

616
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,800
doesn't want us to have.
That's not in His word.

617
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,040
You know, I always back
something up with the word of

618
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,840
God.
You know, Psalm 112 three, I

619
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,800
believe it is says wealth and
riches shall be in my house and

620
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,440
my righteousness endures
forever.

621
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,880
It said your righteousness shall
endure forever.

622
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,360
But I like taking the word of
God personally and that wealth

623
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,960
and riches, yeah, it could be
financial, but wealth and

624
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,520
riches, you know, prosperity
just means to breakthrough to

625
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,880
success in every area of your
life that the Lord wants you to

626
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,000
be healthy, fit and free with
the relationships have have an

627
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,040
abundance of every good thing
that the Lord has with enough to

628
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,520
give as well.
So if there's a dream in your

629
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,960
heart, I believe the Lord for
it.

630
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Believe that.
OK, I believe the Lord's giving

631
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,320
me that desire.
I trust you, Lord, seek him.

632
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Take James 1 verses 5 and 6.
If any lack wisdom, let him come

633
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,680
to God who gives to all
liberally without reproach be

634
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,240
given him.
Let him ask in faith, nothing

635
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,600
wavering.
Ask the Lord for the wisdom, the

636
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,600
step by step, and then couple
it.

637
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,320
This is where a lot of people
miss it make they'll pray, but

638
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,520
then they don't receive.
It's like, oh, Lord, just do

639
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,160
this, you know, whatever, and I
see it in your I see it in your

640
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,560
word, Lord, I'm believing you.
I'm believing you for it.

641
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Yes, Lord, yes, Lord, thank you,
you know, or they may not even

642
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,760
say thank you just like pray.
So it's like always pushing out,

643
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,440
always pushing.
What about receiving Mark 1124.

644
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,120
Is you take the first part and
then you combine it with Mark

645
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,320
1124, where Jesus himself said
whatever things you ask when you

646
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,560
pray, right this moment, when
you pray, believe that you

647
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,400
receive them, believe you take
them.

648
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,080
It says in the Greek and you
will have them not in the sweet

649
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,360
by and by, but in the blessed
here and now you will have them

650
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,240
Well will I have it in my head,
my hands, my circumstances?

651
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,000
No, you may not.
You might.

652
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,760
You might have it immediately,
but you'll have it in your

653
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,760
spirit.
What?

654
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,680
Yeah.
Because to believe God is to

655
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,680
receive from God.
When you believe God, it is

656
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,280
receiving from God.
And so then the next step is.

657
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,160
All right, Lord, I thank you.
What's Mick?

658
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,680
I'll ask you.
What are the first words that

659
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160
come out of your mouth when
someone gives you a gift?

660
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,240
Thank you.
Yay, that's it.

661
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,280
It's just that simple, right?
And you start thanking the Lord,

662
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,480
you start say, oh, thank you,
Lord.

663
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,840
Thank you, Lord.
I have it now.

664
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,320
I have the wisdom, I have the
finances, I have my healing,

665
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,280
whatever it is you're believing
God for.

666
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,880
Now, your brain might say, wait
a second, I don't feel any

667
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,440
different.
I don't see any different.

668
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,800
I don't know the answer.
The enemy might say you're

669
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,680
lying.
You say, uh, uh, uh, no.

670
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,080
God's not a liar.
He said.

671
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,800
Whatever things I ask, when I
pray, believe I receive it and I

672
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,280
will have it.
I have it right now.

673
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,200
First, John 5 verses 14 and 15.
First John 514 and 15.

674
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,640
This is the confidence that we
have in Him, that if we ask

675
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,480
anything according to His will,
He hears us, and if we know He

676
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:47,760
hears us, whatever we ask, we
know that we have as our present

677
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,480
possession.
It says in the amplified.

678
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,200
We know that we have those
petitions we've desired of Him.

679
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,040
You may not have it in the
physical yet, but you have it in

680
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,080
your spirit, and as you continue
to praise through the

681
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,200
breakthrough, praise the Lord
that you have it, you will see

682
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,960
those things line up.
Romans 417 Start calling those

683
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,680
things that be not as though
they were.

684
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,800
We don't look at the things
which are seen.

685
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,960
We look at the things which are
unseen because the things which

686
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,560
are seen are temporal or
temporary, but the things that

687
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,480
are unseen are eternal.
We don't deny the facts.

688
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,600
So that's where a lot of people,
they wonder about us, Mick, you

689
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,880
know, these name it and claim
it.

690
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,560
People, you know, just like, oh,
they're living in a fairy tale.

691
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,720
No, I don't deny the facts.
I don't deny what the medical

692
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:36,080
report is.
I don't deny the facts of what

693
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,400
the bank account says.
I don't deny the facts of what

694
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,240
we see, what our son, our
daughters, and you know what?

695
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:46,680
What's going on there?
I don't deny the facts, however,

696
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,400
and I keep reaching for this
because this really is the

697
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,880
foundation.
However, if the facts are

698
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,520
contrary to the truth of what
the Word of God says, I deny

699
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:04,080
their right to remain.
If the facts are contrary to the

700
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,520
truth of the word of the living
God, I deny the right to remain

701
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080
of those facts.
They have to come under the

702
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,120
pressure of Jesus.
They have to come under the

703
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:21,280
pressure of the Word of God.
And that's where I've seen the

704
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,360
most tremendous miracles and
breakthroughs happen in, in my

705
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,280
life and the lives of of others
whom I've I've known by

706
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,080
receiving by faith the most
powerful force in all creation,

707
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680
the faith of God with which he
made the world's.

708
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,240
Hebrews 11/3.
By faith we understand that the

709
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:42,080
world's were framed by the word
of God.

710
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,960
So the things which are seen are
not made of those things which

711
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,560
are visible.
Those things which are seen are

712
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,240
not made of those things which
are visible.

713
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:54,640
The chair that you're sitting on
is made of invisible things.

714
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,280
That's called physics.
You know, molecules and

715
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600
electrons and all of that.
Absolutely.

716
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,360
While the things which are seen
outside of science in faith,

717
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,560
they're made of faith.
You could call it quantum faith.

718
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,480
Just like there's quantum
physics, there's quantum faith.

719
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,680
So we are to be imitators of God
as dear children.

720
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,680
I believe that's Ephesians 51.
And so if God spoke the world's

721
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,360
into existence and God said
light be, you know, he didn't

722
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,240
step out in the aching void and
say, oh, oh, it's dark out here.

723
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,480
No, he said light be.
And he didn't even create the

724
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,160
sun and the moon until a few
days later.

725
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,760
I mean, that's pretty amazing.
So that light he calls those

726
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,760
things that be not as though
they were.

727
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:38,720
So that's what we're to start
doing.

728
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,440
Start calling those things in
line with God's Word and

729
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,520
praising Him and thanking him
and I promise you, you will see

730
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,320
them come to fruition in your
life.

731
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,760
Well, Doctor Lorette, we like to
round our conversations out here

732
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:01,600
with two questions, the first of
which being coincidence or God.

733
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,040
And what we're kind of
describing there is these

734
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,160
specific instances like meeting
Paul or being delivered, you

735
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,680
know what I mean, and those
types of things.

736
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,200
So give us a sense from your
perspective.

737
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,160
Was what you've described
coincidence or God?

738
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,280
Definitely a God incidence.
Definitely yes.

739
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,960
The Lord, the Lord in his
infinite mercy.

740
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,400
There are no coincidences, it's
God incidents.

741
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Yeah.
Well, to that end, how has your

742
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,880
life changed as a result of
everything that you've shared?

743
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:48,840
Thank you.
Well, about 20 years ago, I, I

744
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:54,120
hired a life coach.
And it was, you know, life

745
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,760
coaching was pretty new then.
And there was a part of me that

746
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,520
was like, you know this, I don't
need a life coach.

747
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,720
You know, I know how to live.
You know, I could do it myself.

748
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,840
And that stems back to a
decision I made when I was five

749
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520
years old.
I remember kneeling on the bed

750
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,240
and my little fingernails were
digging into my thighs.

751
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:18,120
And I said, I will always be
strong.

752
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,280
I will never be weak.
And I tell you those strong

753
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,200
emotions and decisions that are
made when we're young like that

754
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,640
can have a powerful effect on
us.

755
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,720
So if you find yourself going
around the same mountain again

756
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:35,720
and again, things that you want
to have changed, look at that

757
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,080
and ask the Lord to show you
those things.

758
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,480
And then I wondered, what can I
do?

759
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:48,960
What can I do with these things
that the Lord has has redeemed?

760
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:56,000
You know, so it was about about
about 20 years ago I went to a

761
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,120
Christian life coach and I never
even met her.

762
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,720
Mick.
It was it was on the phone.

763
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:05,800
She lived in California.
And I tell you, in six weeks, I

764
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:11,120
feel like I went ahead.
My goodness, two to five years.

765
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,280
Just close the, you know,
success, learning curve.

766
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,200
There's something about working
with someone who is a Christ

767
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,200
centered coach.
The Holy Spirit can use them,

768
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,800
work through them to ask
questions to help you.

769
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,000
And it was around that time we
launched praise moves fitness

770
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,160
ministry.
There was also a one woman show

771
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,480
musical.
I was doing that I wrote and I

772
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,320
was wondering what shall I do
with this?

773
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:40,000
It was great women of the Bible.
And within just a short time it

774
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,360
all came together.
But this question she asked me,

775
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,160
and it's along the lines of what
you what you just said, She

776
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,720
said, Laurette, do you have any
secrets?

777
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:54,200
I said, don't have any secrets.
And I said, no, they've they've

778
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,680
become my message.
And she said, now you're ready

779
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:06,840
to speak when your mess becomes
your message, you're ready to

780
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,520
share it with others.
The Lord is redeeming it for

781
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,200
you.
That's what he did with yoga for

782
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,560
me, 22 years in yoga, even as a
yoga instructor, 22 years in the

783
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,080
new age.
I have a big nose for new age.

784
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,040
I can smell it, just like being
delivered from alcoholism and

785
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,960
smoking.
I've got a big nose, physical

786
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,680
nose for those as well.
Can smell, can smell that.

787
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:37,600
And the Lord gave me praise
moves on February 25th, 2001 at

788
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,120
10:35 in the morning.
I remember it exactly.

789
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,200
I was working out to AVHS video
of Denise Austin saying, how can

790
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,680
she look like that?
How could she look so good?

791
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,360
How did she do that?
And as there's got to be an

792
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,760
easier way to work out.
And all of a sudden and it was

793
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,040
like praying, thinking at the
same time.

794
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:01,960
And all of a sudden, just like a
crystal drop of water in a, in a

795
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,000
clear pool with the ripples
going out, I said praise moves

796
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,320
the Christian alternative to
yoga.

797
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,040
I was like, oh, whoa.
I was like, Lord, I don't want

798
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,280
to have anything to do with
yoga.

799
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,400
No, no, no, because Christian
yoga and, you know, it's not

800
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,440
Christian yoga.
Christian yoga is an oxymoron,

801
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,240
like a Christian, Buddhist.
No such thing.

802
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,840
There's a syncretism.
You can't blend to religions.

803
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,560
And actually Christianity is not
a religion.

804
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,040
It's a relationship.
But yoga is a religion.

805
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,040
You know, it's like, no, no, no,
no.

806
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,360
I prayed about this, Mick, for
two years.

807
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,080
I prayed and fasted.
I was like, Lord, I just, I'd

808
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,240
spent most of my life avoiding
conflict, you know, just like,

809
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,600
no.
But he was so firm with me.

810
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,760
He was like, I want you to do
this.

811
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,640
And it's the Christian
alternative to yoga.

812
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,480
It's based on the word of God
that we meditate upon and speak

813
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,720
aloud while doing stretching,
strengthening postures.

814
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,720
People have said to me, Mick, I
was never able to memorize

815
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,360
Scripture before until I started
doing praise moves and moving to

816
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,440
the word of God.
That's because your whole being

817
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,480
is involved in it.
When we're doing praise moves

818
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,240
and like when we're doing the
Angel posture, we're reaching

819
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,520
up.
It looks kind of like like

820
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,560
Superman, a little bit like
we're taking off like right

821
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,160
right here.
And front knee is bent, the back

822
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,080
knee, the is, is straight and
your heel is reaching toward the

823
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:22,920
ground.
You're reaching up.

824
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,600
But at the same time the Angel
posture you're saying for he

825
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,440
shall give his angels charge
over you to keep you in all on

826
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,200
your ways.
Psalm 9111.

827
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,800
And we have about 160 praise
moves postures, including those

828
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,040
that mirror the Hebrew alphabet.
And people are getting the word

829
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,760
of God in into them.
It's changing their prayer

830
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,880
lives, changing their physical
lives.

831
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,120
There are people that have had
numerous physical problems and

832
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,920
we've had chiropractors and pain
specialists and different ones

833
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,560
say, I'm suggesting this for for
my patients, you know, it's

834
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,520
making such a difference in in
their lives.

835
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:09,240
This one person had ankle
ankylosing spondylitis and her

836
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,880
doctor said whatever you're
doing, keep doing it because

837
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,880
it's keeping your body from
deteriorating.

838
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,160
I'm not making any medical
claims, but I'm sharing

839
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,760
testimonies that people have
shared.

840
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,920
You could see it at
praisemoves.com.

841
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,880
People have lost weight doing
this.

842
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,040
It's something about getting the
word of God on the inside of

843
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,440
you.
So the Lord has taken these

844
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,080
negatives in my life and I
invite everyone listening to

845
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,200
take whatever the negatives were
in your past and throw them over

846
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,640
onto the Lord.
The Word says our God is a

847
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,160
consuming fire.
When you throw those things, the

848
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,160
shame, the guilt, I'm not going
to allow the enemy to tap dance

849
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,000
on my head with it anymore.
I'm throwing it over onto the

850
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,760
Lord.
When you throw things into a

851
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,960
fire, what does it become?
It burns up ashes.

852
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,600
Psalm Isaiah 61 says He gives us
beauty for ashes.

853
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,160
When you allow him to have it,
He will give you that and that's

854
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,520
what he did also for the
overeating weight loss without

855
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,320
willpower.
Our foundation Scripture is 1st

856
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,440
Corinthians 1031.
Whether you eat or drink or

857
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,560
whatever you do, do all to the
glory of God.

858
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,360
And then also Zechariah 46, it's
not by might or by power nor by

859
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,200
willpower, but by my spirit, say
as the Lord of hosts.

860
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,760
And we've had people just drop.
Wait, it's been, it's been

861
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,360
amazing.
Jessica Minter in Oklahoma City,

862
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:34,360
young mom has dropped 70 lbs and
it's been off for over 2 years.

863
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,200
She's at her normal weight.
Just go away the whole time.

864
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,040
She said, I never thought about
inviting God in into this in

865
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,960
into my weight loss journey and
I tried so hard to do it myself.

866
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,600
There's something about being in
community with other women who

867
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,720
are on the same, on the same
journey.

868
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,520
And she said I never thought of
a biblical approach.

869
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,840
And, and many have said the
biggest change has been the

870
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,280
weight on the inside has come
off.

871
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:07,480
Even people who own pizza shops.
Mick has one of our one of our

872
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,240
gals, Jen Schumar owns a a pizza
shop in Pennsylvania.

873
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,400
She's dropped 60 lbs.
It's been off for over 2 years.

874
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,120
She's around pizza every day.
How is it?

875
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,840
It's not about diet, it's about
livid.

876
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,760
It's one step at a time, one day
at a time.

877
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,720
And it's, it's amazing the, the
weight, losing the weight is, is

878
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,840
the hook.
I would say just like exercise

879
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,640
and having an alternative to
yoga is the hook in praise

880
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,080
moves, getting the weight off is
the hook.

881
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,520
You could say in weight loss
without willpower to get them

882
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,520
more into the Word of God and
more of the word of God into

883
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,400
them because he is the one who
changes us, changing our want to

884
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,840
from the inside out.
Yeah, well said Doctor Lorette,

885
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,840
been a real pleasure.
Thank you a bunch for laying all

886
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,480
of that out for us both in terms
of redemption for you from a

887
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,120
really challenging and traumatic
upbringing all the way through

888
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,280
to your professional work now.
So thank you a bunch.

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It's been a real pleasure to
chat with you and have you on

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when you look.
Thank you so much, and may I

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mention a free gift that I have
for our listeners?

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Yeah, go ahead.
All right, if what I've said

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resonates with you and you want
to learn more, Christian weight

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loss kit.com that's Christian
Weight loss kit.com.

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It's a free mini guide and
little mini course as well,

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video course that you can can
take.

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It's totally free and you'll
learn more that way.

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And then I invite you also to
take a look at praisemoves.com.

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praisemoves.com.
We have instructors all over the

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world, women and men ages 18 to
80s.

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And you might say, I don't know
if I want to be a fitness

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minister.
Well, you may want to take a

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class.
We have free classes online and

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also in your neighborhood
perhaps, but also video as well.

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So I invite you to take a look
at that.

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And Mick, thank you so much for
this opportunity to share.

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You have such a heart for the
Lord and the proof that yes, God

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is alive through Jesus Christ
and he loves you, all our

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listeners.
He loves you so very, very much

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and wants that deepening that,
that intimacy, that relationship

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with you.
What part of your life does God

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not want to be a part of?
He wants to be a part of every

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part of your life.
Thank you, Nick.

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Absolutely, thanks a bunch,
we'll chat soon.

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for listening and watching, and
God bless.