Sept. 3, 2025
Two Moments That Proved God Knows Me | Andrew | 020
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In this episode of When You Look, Mick sits down with Andrew Gayfield, a husband, father, small business owner, and musician, shares two powerful firsthand stories of moments that redirected his life. At just 13 years old, Andrew wrestled with bitterness toward his parents—until a stranger at church spoke words that no one else could have known. Later, in a season of loneliness, another unexpected encounter reminded him that he was deeply loved.
Were these experiences mere coincidence? Or was God speaking directly to him through others?
👉 Watch as Andrew shares how these moments shaped his journey, led him toward music, and strengthened his faith.
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0:26 - Intros
1:04 - Story 1 Backstory
6:10 - Story 1 Recap
7:37 - Impact of Story 1
11:22 - Story 2 Backstory
14:56 - Story 2 Recap
16:08 - Coincidence or God?
17:18 - Impact on Andrew's Life
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That has never happened in my
life.
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People don't come up.
And going back to the first
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story, it's not like that's
happened to me over and over and
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over again in my life.
And then just this time it was
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profound because it happened.
It's like it just doesn't
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happen, and it hasn't happened
since.
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There's no way that that's
coincidence.
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Welcome to When You Look, where
ordinary people share their
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extraordinary experiences and
you get to decide, was it
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coincidence or God?
Andrew, thanks a bunch for being
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on When You Look.
Really excited to have you here.
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Well, thanks for having me
excited to be here.
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Yeah, I really appreciate that,
man.
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We've got a great story to hear
from you today.
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And before we get to that, tell
us a little bit about yourself.
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Yeah, husband, father of three,
small business owner, musician,
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like play a little music and I
go to MCC.
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Awesome.
Well, thanks a bunch as
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mentioned for being on the show.
Really excited to hear your
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story.
Give us a little bit of back
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story and then walk us through
the rest of it as it occurred
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for you.
Well, I want to share at least
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two stories a day.
I think these are kind of the
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most, maybe most potent
potentially anyway.
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And and so sharing, sharing the
back story.
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It starts, starts about when I
was 13 or 14.
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I don't remember the exact age.
You know, I grew up in a great
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family, great house, got really
good parents.
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I'm, I'm, I've seven siblings.
So there's ten of us total mom,
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dad and eight kids.
I'm the second youngest.
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We were home schooled and mom
and dad took us to church from
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as early as I can remember.
And this starts, it starts when
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I'm kind of like getting into
high school age.
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I had, I had played basketball
with parks and Rec and then of
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course we played basketball in
the street and that kind of
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stuff.
In retrospect, not a very good
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basketball player, but you know,
at the time, you know, you don't
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always know in the moment, you
know your actual skill.
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But I was beginning to feel this
the kind of disconnect and or
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bitterness about the way my life
was going, right?
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So going into high school, I'm
thinking like, I want to play
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sports.
The only way to play sports is
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through public school, right?
So if you want to, you know,
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play anything other than street
basketball, basically, that's,
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that's what you do, right?
For whatever reason, I began to
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feel angry and bitter toward my
parents for kind of like
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deciding our life was to, to be
homeschooled, right?
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Instead of us maybe having an
opinion or deciding.
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And so actually I had to talk to
my parents about this.
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And so these feelings began to
happen in a very, very small
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window of time, about 3 weeks
probably.
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You know, I actually had prayed
and talked to God about it, but
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hadn't talked to anybody else.
I began to feel bitter about
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this, about them deciding how
how my life should go or
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something along those lines.
And, you know, a couple weeks
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into this, I prayed, kind of
felt this check on my spirit
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like, hey, this feelings are
inappropriate.
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And then after church, right
after church, this gentleman who
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you know, I've known or to that
point I've known just about my
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whole life, probably since I was
5 or 6 or something, I'd known
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he was a stand up guy in the
church, was there, you know,
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regularly serving that kind of
thing, right?
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He came up to me and just said,
you know, you know, Andrew, you
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know, don't be bitter at your
parents.
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And I can't remember if he said,
you know, about sports, but it
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was about it was something very
similar to that.
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Don't be don't be angry with
them because you're home
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schooled and you can't, you
know, you're feeling trapped or
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something along those lines
because you're feeling anxious
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or bitter about, you know, the
position that they've they've
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put you in.
And what's really neat is that
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I'm having this experience where
I feel like, you know, God is
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he's speaking to me in this
moment.
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And it was an overwhelming sense
of awe that it's like, whoa, he,
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he knows me, knows my struggles,
knows my pain.
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He cared enough to encourage
somebody to come and talk to me,
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to give that word to somebody to
come and talk to me.
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And so anyway, I just remember
probably saying, you know,
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thanks, appreciate you saying
that.
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And and then just kind of, I
don't know, walking away on
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cloud nine, really being hit
profoundly, like God knows who I
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am and cares enough about me to
come say, hey, Andrew, and you
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know, there's a plan for your
life.
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So tell us a little bit about
that plan.
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As a teenager, if I had pursued
athletics, I probably wouldn't
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have become a musician because
shortly after that I decided to
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pick up a guitar and play music.
And I actually played music at
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the church for probably eight
years or so at least.
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And then I played with other a
few other churches here and
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there.
I played music in a band, maybe
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a couple bands, but it was
actually a very, very big part
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of my life.
At least 15 to probably 25.
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I played music like all the
time, probably enough to be a
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second time job.
I probably at one point I was
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probably easily playing 40 hours
a week.
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I do maybe share a verse that I
thought connected with the
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story.
It's Psalm 139, verse 13.
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It says for you created my
inmost being.
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You knit me together in my
mother's womb.
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I praise you because I am
fearfully and wonderfully made.
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Your works are wonderful and I,
I know them full well.
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My frame is not hidden from you.
When I was made in the secret
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place, I was woven together in
the depths of the earth.
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Your eyes, soul, my unformed
body.
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It's a verse, you know, kind of
saying, you know, I know who you
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are.
I'm there.
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I'm there before you were and I,
I, I know who you're going to
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be.
And so I think the the
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profoundness is that, you know,
God was there for me, He can be
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there for you too.
So.
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Yeah, fully track with you on
that.
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So let's just re recap this a
little bit.
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You're 1314, high schoolish age,
as you were saying, and in the
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in, in sort of a moment or a
period, albeit A somewhat short
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one, where you're feeling a
little bit embittered towards
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your folks and essentially out
of nowhere, someone that you
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knew.
But it sounds like someone that
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wasn't necessarily aware of that
situation 'cause you'd only talk
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to God about it, ends up coming
up to you at church and sharing
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with you encouragement to not be
bitter.
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Am I right with that?
Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
I hadn't told anybody and maybe
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some other contexts just like
something like this hadn't ever
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happened to me before.
I'd never ever in my life had
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somebody in the church.
We call it reading your mail.
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So no one had ever come up and
spoke a word of knowledge or a
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prophetic word over my life.
It wasn't like, oh, this
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happened every week and this
time he got it right, right.
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This is the apart from the
second story I'm going to share.
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Basically the only time
something that specific has ever
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happened in my life.
And so it's not like there's
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been 99 swings and misses and
one hit.
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It's like it's one swing and one
hit.
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So right.
Very, very, very cool.
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Yeah, for sure.
So let's talk a little bit more,
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though, about the impact that
this had for you, because it
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sounds as if it helped to
redirect you from an emphasis on
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sports to an emphasis on music.
Tell us a little bit more about
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how that happened.
You know, when you're a angsty
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teenager kind of thing, like you
don't really know what direction
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to go with your life.
So so and you can't always you
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can't always perceive like the
things that God is doing and
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moving in your life.
But on some low, I think that
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there was maybe acceptance.
Well, you know, if this is the
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direction my parents want to go,
homeschooling is going to be
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fine.
That'll be great.
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I'll figure it out.
You know, I, I don't need to be
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anxious about those outcomes,
right?
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And so one thing that maybe I
had contact.
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So because I was homeschooled, I
was kind of big for my age.
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Then I got to work a lot with
various contractors, people I
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knew through the community and
they would, you know, they would
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say, hey, you want to come, you
know, pick up sticks for money,
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you want to cut grass.
Basically, I was working for a
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wage, you know, 1213141516 when
I was 16.
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I had like 3 jobs and in part,
you know, I was able to do that
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because I was homeschooled and
you know, growing up we didn't
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really have any money.
My parents didn't have money to
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buy me a guitar.
And so because I was able to,
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you know, have some free cash
flow, I was able to buy my own
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music equipment.
So that was that's one way that
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God was able to provide for that
bridge and to, you know, become
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a musician.
You got to have a good door.
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I was able to get some music
less pay for music lessons.
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And you know, I was able to buy
a car so I could drive myself to
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music lessons when I was 16,
that kind of stuff.
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I was able to drive myself to
church for band practice or you
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know, Wednesday night services
and youth because I started
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playing guitar with the youth
and that kind of stuff, so.
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So Andrew, you've got this
moment of someone coming up to
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you.
They hadn't read your mail as
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you had described, and yet they
gave you what you felt like was
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a very clear word and a word
from God.
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So we asked this question of
everybody on the show, and that
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is was it coincidence or God?
That was definitely inspired by
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the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, right on.
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Well, give us a sense for how
your life has changed as a
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result of that.
Probably too much to share, I
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guess, if I'm thinking like if I
wouldn't become a musician, like
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I learned that the maybe a lot
of theology from having sitting
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through classes that were, you
know, about worship and you
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know, and how how we're we are
to worship God like, and how
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that interacts with the, the
scripture or the Bible.
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And a lot of friends, you know,
my friends growing up or from my
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childhood are, are the ones that
I stay in touch with.
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They're all musicians and ones
that I played with.
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So, so that's, that's probably
probably some of the most
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profound things you when you
play music for the church,
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you're kind of there a lot and
you get to know people real
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well.
And so I had think I had great
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community, you know, from being
a musician and playing at
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church.
I had a lot, a lot of lot of
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good godly friendships to that.
So.
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Yeah, well, thanks a bunch for
sharing all that.
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So much goodness there.
So give me a quick overview of
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the second story.
For a couple years or whatever,
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I don't know.
I feel like nobody had ever, you
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know, genuine, genuinely hugged
me or something and told me that
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I was loved.
I felt loved by friends or
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family, but nobody had ever or
nobody had hugged me in like,
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years.
I was probably 20 years old or
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something.
For whatever reason, I went to
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some prayer meeting and at a
church in Fredericksburg and I
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was having this feeling that,
you know, I wasn't completely
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loved.
And of course I don't, I don't
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know why.
It's not even exactly forefront
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of my brain, except there have
been at least once, maybe more
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that I had prayed and talked to
God about it.
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You know, that, you know, I, I
don't know why I feel this way,
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but I do.
And so I to totally summarize it
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or something, I guess in a way I
was feeling lonely or something,
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but but it, I don't even know
why that's the right word.
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It's just, it was right.
So we were in this prayer
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meeting and this guy walks up to
me and he says, you know, I felt
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like God told me I'm supposed to
give you a hug.
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And so this gentleman I've never
met in my life, he was
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definitely younger and shorter
than me.
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And so for him to walk up to me
and say that I thought probably
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took some, you know, Holy Spirit
and encouragement or something.
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Anyway, he comes up to me and
he's like, I don't know why, but
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I feel like God told me I'm
supposed to give you a hug and
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tell, tell you that, yeah, I
love you or he loves you.
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I can't remember if he said I
love you or he loves you.
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But you know, the, the, the,
the, the, the potency is the
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same.
Anyway, So he actually gave me a
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hug and I'm like, this is
awkward, you know, But then
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soon, but at the same time, I'm
getting hit with this profound
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sense of awe again that, you
know, God is out there.
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He knows me, he knows my name
and he knows my struggles and he
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knows like he, he loves me and
he loves me enough to again,
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send someone to do something
awkward, so to speak, right,
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just to jump in on my behalf and
and give me a word of
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encouragement.
I mean, it's really also, of
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course, a word of knowledge,
because this is something I
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hadn't talked to anybody about.
I guess the maybe the profound
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thing is to just say you know
God, God knows everything about
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you.
He knows the number of hairs on
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your head as Jesus said, and and
that we can trust in him.
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I had a verse that I think of
course is kind of relevant for
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this story too.
It's Proverbs 35I trust in the
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Lord with all your heart and
lean not on your own own
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understanding and all your ways.
Acknowledge him and he will make
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your paths straight.
God has a plan and purpose for
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your life.
And you know, if we submit to
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him, he's, he's going to guide
us, leading guide us in our
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life.
That doesn't mean that, you
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know, we won't have trials or
tribulation or struggles or
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something along those lines.
But it, you know, we know he's
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there with us the whole time.
And so I feel like that this
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part of my testimony is worth
sharing because it helped me a
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lot.
And, you know, maybe, maybe
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it'll be helpful for viewers to
to know that God can meet them
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right where, where they are.
And those are, those are that's,
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that's one way that God
communicated that to me.
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And he's, he's, he's a good,
good father.
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Yeah.
So you're 20 something, it
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sounds like in this particular
story and in a in a period or a
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moment of feeling not fully
loved or perhaps a little lonely
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or something along those lines.
And you're chatting with God
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about this through prayer.
And then in a town that you
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typically didn't go to at a
prayer meeting that you'd never
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been to before, a complete
stranger smaller than you in
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stature comes up and tells you,
I think God told me that I'm
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supposed to give you a hug and
encourage you.
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And you get that hug.
And it sounds like that was
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quite impactful to you from God.
You know, that I, I, I didn't
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even know the gentleman's name.
You know, I probably conveyed,
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wow, that's really, you know, I
appreciate you doing that.
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That's that's profound.
But like, in the moment, there's
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no way that I can kind of like
maybe tell him the back story of
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how potent that is.
But it was profound for me, for
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sure, yeah.
Well, we asked this question of
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everybody towards the end of
their stories, and I got a
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pretty good idea how you're
going to respond to this one.
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But was this coincidence or God
has?
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To be God, that has never
happened in my life.
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People don't come up and hug me.
Going back to the first story,
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it's not like that's happened to
me over and over and over again
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in my life.
And then just this time it was
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profound because it happened.
It's like it just doesn't
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happen.
And in this particular unique
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instance and point in my life,
it was something that I was
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feeling, feeling longingly in
this direction.
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We're not feeling completely
loved.
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And I prayed about it, talk to
God about it.
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And then he sends a messenger.
And I mean, that all again, it
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all happened in such a short
time frame.
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I mean, and it hasn't happened
since.
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There's no way that that's
coincidence.
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So I mean, you know, it's again,
it's not like there was 99
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misses and then one hit.
I mean it's like absolute 0 on
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the misses.
Well, what's been the impact of
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that on your life?
It's really helpful because it
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it, you know, it's, it's one way
that you know that we can know
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God, that you know the Holy
Spirit and through his acts,
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through his miracles, can, can
communicate.
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You know, that he's there, that
he, he's, he's got our back.
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You know, that he's there to
help us along that his gospel is
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true.
You know, that is his, his words
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are reliable.
You know, in, in and Matthew, he
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talks about how you know, those
who listen to my words and act
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upon them are like the, the,
the, you know, the man who
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builds his house upon a rock.
So he has a good foundation
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before he builds his house.
And then when the wind and rain
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comes and, and the waves, the
house still stands through the
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storms and the trials and
tribulations of this life.
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But the man who hears my words
and doesn't obey them is like
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the man who builds this house
upon Sam.
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And so he builds this house
without a foundation.
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And then when the rain, when
rain storms, waves come, it just
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knocks it flat.
And, and so, you know, we know
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that his, his word is true and
reliable because of his
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demonstrations of, of you know,
through his, through his acts
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and, and miracles and his
wisdom.
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And so we can build our, we can
use the Bible as a foundation
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for our life.
And you know therein, you know
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we can trust in the Lord with
all our heart and lean not on
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our own understanding.
And He'll guide our path.
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Thanks and God bless.
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That has never happened in my
life.
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People don't come up.
And going back to the first
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story, it's not like that's
happened to me over and over and
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over again in my life.
And then just this time it was
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profound because it happened.
It's like it just doesn't
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happen, and it hasn't happened
since.
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There's no way that that's
coincidence.
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Welcome to When You Look, where
ordinary people share their
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extraordinary experiences and
you get to decide, was it
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coincidence or God?
Andrew, thanks a bunch for being
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on When You Look.
Really excited to have you here.
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Well, thanks for having me
excited to be here.
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Yeah, I really appreciate that,
man.
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We've got a great story to hear
from you today.
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And before we get to that, tell
us a little bit about yourself.
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Yeah, husband, father of three,
small business owner, musician,
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like play a little music and I
go to MCC.
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Awesome.
Well, thanks a bunch as
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mentioned for being on the show.
Really excited to hear your
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story.
Give us a little bit of back
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story and then walk us through
the rest of it as it occurred
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for you.
Well, I want to share at least
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two stories a day.
I think these are kind of the
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most, maybe most potent
potentially anyway.
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And and so sharing, sharing the
back story.
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It starts, starts about when I
was 13 or 14.
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I don't remember the exact age.
You know, I grew up in a great
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family, great house, got really
good parents.
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I'm, I'm, I've seven siblings.
So there's ten of us total mom,
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dad and eight kids.
I'm the second youngest.
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We were home schooled and mom
and dad took us to church from
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as early as I can remember.
And this starts, it starts when
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I'm kind of like getting into
high school age.
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I had, I had played basketball
with parks and Rec and then of
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course we played basketball in
the street and that kind of
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stuff.
In retrospect, not a very good
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basketball player, but you know,
at the time, you know, you don't
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always know in the moment, you
know your actual skill.
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But I was beginning to feel this
the kind of disconnect and or
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bitterness about the way my life
was going, right?
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So going into high school, I'm
thinking like, I want to play
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sports.
The only way to play sports is
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through public school, right?
So if you want to, you know,
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play anything other than street
basketball, basically, that's,
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that's what you do, right?
For whatever reason, I began to
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feel angry and bitter toward my
parents for kind of like
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deciding our life was to, to be
homeschooled, right?
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Instead of us maybe having an
opinion or deciding.
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And so actually I had to talk to
my parents about this.
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And so these feelings began to
happen in a very, very small
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window of time, about 3 weeks
probably.
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You know, I actually had prayed
and talked to God about it, but
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hadn't talked to anybody else.
I began to feel bitter about
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this, about them deciding how
how my life should go or
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something along those lines.
And, you know, a couple weeks
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into this, I prayed, kind of
felt this check on my spirit
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like, hey, this feelings are
inappropriate.
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And then after church, right
after church, this gentleman who
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you know, I've known or to that
point I've known just about my
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whole life, probably since I was
5 or 6 or something, I'd known
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he was a stand up guy in the
church, was there, you know,
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regularly serving that kind of
thing, right?
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He came up to me and just said,
you know, you know, Andrew, you
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know, don't be bitter at your
parents.
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And I can't remember if he said,
you know, about sports, but it
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was about it was something very
similar to that.
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Don't be don't be angry with
them because you're home
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schooled and you can't, you
know, you're feeling trapped or
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something along those lines
because you're feeling anxious
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or bitter about, you know, the
position that they've they've
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put you in.
And what's really neat is that
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I'm having this experience where
I feel like, you know, God is
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he's speaking to me in this
moment.
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And it was an overwhelming sense
of awe that it's like, whoa, he,
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he knows me, knows my struggles,
knows my pain.
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He cared enough to encourage
somebody to come and talk to me,
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to give that word to somebody to
come and talk to me.
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And so anyway, I just remember
probably saying, you know,
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thanks, appreciate you saying
that.
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And and then just kind of, I
don't know, walking away on
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cloud nine, really being hit
profoundly, like God knows who I
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am and cares enough about me to
come say, hey, Andrew, and you
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know, there's a plan for your
life.
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So tell us a little bit about
that plan.
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As a teenager, if I had pursued
athletics, I probably wouldn't
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have become a musician because
shortly after that I decided to
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pick up a guitar and play music.
And I actually played music at
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the church for probably eight
years or so at least.
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And then I played with other a
few other churches here and
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there.
I played music in a band, maybe
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a couple bands, but it was
actually a very, very big part
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of my life.
At least 15 to probably 25.
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I played music like all the
time, probably enough to be a
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second time job.
I probably at one point I was
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probably easily playing 40 hours
a week.
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I do maybe share a verse that I
thought connected with the
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story.
It's Psalm 139, verse 13.
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It says for you created my
inmost being.
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You knit me together in my
mother's womb.
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I praise you because I am
fearfully and wonderfully made.
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Your works are wonderful and I,
I know them full well.
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My frame is not hidden from you.
When I was made in the secret
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place, I was woven together in
the depths of the earth.
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Your eyes, soul, my unformed
body.
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It's a verse, you know, kind of
saying, you know, I know who you
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are.
I'm there.
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I'm there before you were and I,
I, I know who you're going to
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be.
And so I think the the
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profoundness is that, you know,
God was there for me, He can be
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there for you too.
So.
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Yeah, fully track with you on
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So let's just re recap this a
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You're 1314, high schoolish age,
as you were saying, and in the
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in, in sort of a moment or a
period, albeit A somewhat short
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one, where you're feeling a
little bit embittered towards
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your folks and essentially out
of nowhere, someone that you
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knew.
But it sounds like someone that
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wasn't necessarily aware of that
situation 'cause you'd only talk
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to God about it, ends up coming
up to you at church and sharing
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with you encouragement to not be
bitter.
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Am I right with that?
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I hadn't told anybody and maybe
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some other contexts just like
something like this hadn't ever
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happened to me before.
I'd never ever in my life had
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somebody in the church.
We call it reading your mail.
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So no one had ever come up and
spoke a word of knowledge or a
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prophetic word over my life.
It wasn't like, oh, this
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happened every week and this
time he got it right, right.
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This is the apart from the
second story I'm going to share.
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Basically the only time
something that specific has ever
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happened in my life.
And so it's not like there's
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been 99 swings and misses and
one hit.
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It's like it's one swing and one
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So right.
Very, very, very cool.
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Yeah, for sure.
So let's talk a little bit more,
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though, about the impact that
this had for you, because it
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sounds as if it helped to
redirect you from an emphasis on
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sports to an emphasis on music.
Tell us a little bit more about
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how that happened.
You know, when you're a angsty
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teenager kind of thing, like you
don't really know what direction
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to go with your life.
So so and you can't always you
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can't always perceive like the
things that God is doing and
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moving in your life.
But on some low, I think that
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there was maybe acceptance.
Well, you know, if this is the
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direction my parents want to go,
homeschooling is going to be
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fine.
That'll be great.
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I'll figure it out.
You know, I, I don't need to be
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anxious about those outcomes,
right?
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So because I was homeschooled, I
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Then I got to work a lot with
various contractors, people I
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knew through the community and
they would, you know, they would
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say, hey, you want to come, you
know, pick up sticks for money,
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you want to cut grass.
Basically, I was working for a
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wage, you know, 1213141516 when
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I had like 3 jobs and in part,
you know, I was able to do that
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because I was homeschooled and
you know, growing up we didn't
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really have any money.
My parents didn't have money to
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buy me a guitar.
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you know, have some free cash
flow, I was able to buy my own
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music equipment.
So that was that's one way that
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God was able to provide for that
bridge and to, you know, become
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a musician.
You got to have a good door.
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I was able to get some music
less pay for music lessons.
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And you know, I was able to buy
a car so I could drive myself to
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music lessons when I was 16,
that kind of stuff.
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I was able to drive myself to
church for band practice or you
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know, Wednesday night services
and youth because I started
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playing guitar with the youth
and that kind of stuff, so.
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So Andrew, you've got this
moment of someone coming up to
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you.
They hadn't read your mail as
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you had described, and yet they
gave you what you felt like was
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a very clear word and a word
from God.
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So we asked this question of
everybody on the show, and that
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is was it coincidence or God?
That was definitely inspired by
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the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, right on.
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Well, give us a sense for how
your life has changed as a
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result of that.
Probably too much to share, I
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guess, if I'm thinking like if I
wouldn't become a musician, like
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I learned that the maybe a lot
of theology from having sitting
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through classes that were, you
know, about worship and you
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know, and how how we're we are
to worship God like, and how
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that interacts with the, the
scripture or the Bible.
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And a lot of friends, you know,
my friends growing up or from my
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childhood are, are the ones that
I stay in touch with.
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They're all musicians and ones
that I played with.
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So, so that's, that's probably
probably some of the most
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profound things you when you
play music for the church,
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you're kind of there a lot and
you get to know people real
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well.
And so I had think I had great
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community, you know, from being
a musician and playing at
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church.
I had a lot, a lot of lot of
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good godly friendships to that.
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Yeah, well, thanks a bunch for
sharing all that.
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So much goodness there.
So give me a quick overview of
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the second story.
For a couple years or whatever,
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I don't know.
I feel like nobody had ever, you
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know, genuine, genuinely hugged
me or something and told me that
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I was loved.
I felt loved by friends or
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family, but nobody had ever or
nobody had hugged me in like,
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years.
I was probably 20 years old or
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something.
For whatever reason, I went to
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some prayer meeting and at a
church in Fredericksburg and I
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was having this feeling that,
you know, I wasn't completely
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loved.
And of course I don't, I don't
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know why.
It's not even exactly forefront
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of my brain, except there have
been at least once, maybe more
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that I had prayed and talked to
God about it.
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You know, that, you know, I, I
don't know why I feel this way,
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but I do.
And so I to totally summarize it
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or something, I guess in a way I
was feeling lonely or something,
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but but it, I don't even know
why that's the right word.
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It's just, it was right.
So we were in this prayer
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meeting and this guy walks up to
me and he says, you know, I felt
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like God told me I'm supposed to
give you a hug.
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And so this gentleman I've never
met in my life, he was
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definitely younger and shorter
than me.
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And so for him to walk up to me
and say that I thought probably
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took some, you know, Holy Spirit
and encouragement or something.
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Anyway, he comes up to me and
he's like, I don't know why, but
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I feel like God told me I'm
supposed to give you a hug and
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tell, tell you that, yeah, I
love you or he loves you.
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I can't remember if he said I
love you or he loves you.
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But you know, the, the, the,
the, the, the potency is the
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same.
Anyway, So he actually gave me a
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hug and I'm like, this is
awkward, you know, But then
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soon, but at the same time, I'm
getting hit with this profound
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sense of awe again that, you
know, God is out there.
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He knows me, he knows my name
and he knows my struggles and he
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knows like he, he loves me and
he loves me enough to again,
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send someone to do something
awkward, so to speak, right,
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just to jump in on my behalf and
and give me a word of
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encouragement.
I mean, it's really also, of
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course, a word of knowledge,
because this is something I
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hadn't talked to anybody about.
I guess the maybe the profound
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thing is to just say you know
God, God knows everything about
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you.
He knows the number of hairs on
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your head as Jesus said, and and
that we can trust in him.
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I had a verse that I think of
course is kind of relevant for
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this story too.
It's Proverbs 35I trust in the
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Lord with all your heart and
lean not on your own own
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understanding and all your ways.
Acknowledge him and he will make
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your paths straight.
God has a plan and purpose for
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your life.
And you know, if we submit to
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him, he's, he's going to guide
us, leading guide us in our
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life.
That doesn't mean that, you
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know, we won't have trials or
tribulation or struggles or
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something along those lines.
But it, you know, we know he's
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there with us the whole time.
And so I feel like that this
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part of my testimony is worth
sharing because it helped me a
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lot.
And, you know, maybe, maybe
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it'll be helpful for viewers to
to know that God can meet them
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right where, where they are.
And those are, those are that's,
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that's one way that God
communicated that to me.
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And he's, he's, he's a good,
good father.
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Yeah.
So you're 20 something, it
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sounds like in this particular
story and in a in a period or a
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moment of feeling not fully
loved or perhaps a little lonely
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or something along those lines.
And you're chatting with God
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about this through prayer.
And then in a town that you
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typically didn't go to at a
prayer meeting that you'd never
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been to before, a complete
stranger smaller than you in
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stature comes up and tells you,
I think God told me that I'm
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supposed to give you a hug and
encourage you.
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And you get that hug.
And it sounds like that was
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quite impactful to you from God.
You know, that I, I, I didn't
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even know the gentleman's name.
You know, I probably conveyed,
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wow, that's really, you know, I
appreciate you doing that.
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That's that's profound.
But like, in the moment, there's
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no way that I can kind of like
maybe tell him the back story of
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how potent that is.
But it was profound for me, for
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sure, yeah.
Well, we asked this question of
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everybody towards the end of
their stories, and I got a
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pretty good idea how you're
going to respond to this one.
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But was this coincidence or God
has?
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To be God, that has never
happened in my life.
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People don't come up and hug me.
Going back to the first story,
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it's not like that's happened to
me over and over and over again
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in my life.
And then just this time it was
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profound because it happened.
It's like it just doesn't
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happen.
And in this particular unique
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instance and point in my life,
it was something that I was
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feeling, feeling longingly in
this direction.
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We're not feeling completely
loved.
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And I prayed about it, talk to
God about it.
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And then he sends a messenger.
And I mean, that all again, it
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all happened in such a short
time frame.
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I mean, and it hasn't happened
since.
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There's no way that that's
coincidence.
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So I mean, you know, it's again,
it's not like there was 99
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misses and then one hit.
I mean it's like absolute 0 on
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the misses.
Well, what's been the impact of
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that on your life?
It's really helpful because it
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it, you know, it's, it's one way
that you know that we can know
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God, that you know the Holy
Spirit and through his acts,
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through his miracles, can, can
communicate.
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You know, that he's there, that
he, he's, he's got our back.
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You know, that he's there to
help us along that his gospel is
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true.
You know, that is his, his words
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are reliable.
You know, in, in and Matthew, he
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talks about how you know, those
who listen to my words and act
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upon them are like the, the,
the, you know, the man who
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builds his house upon a rock.
So he has a good foundation
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before he builds his house.
And then when the wind and rain
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comes and, and the waves, the
house still stands through the
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storms and the trials and
tribulations of this life.
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But the man who hears my words
and doesn't obey them is like
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the man who builds this house
upon Sam.
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And so he builds this house
without a foundation.
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And then when the rain, when
rain storms, waves come, it just
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knocks it flat.
And, and so, you know, we know
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that his, his word is true and
reliable because of his
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demonstrations of, of you know,
through his, through his acts
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and, and miracles and his
wisdom.
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And so we can build our, we can
use the Bible as a foundation
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for our life.
And you know therein, you know
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we can trust in the Lord with
all our heart and lean not on
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our own understanding.
And He'll guide our path.
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Thanks a bunch for coming on the
show and telling your story.
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Thanks a bunch.
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Well, there you have it.
Was it coincidence or God?
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You decide for yourself, but I
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